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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    If there is a chance of one domestic terrorism act because of this refugee program, I absolutely believe it's worth shuttering the program.
    I'm just curious. If there is a chance of one domestic terrorism act (say killing innocent children in a grade school in Newtown) because assault rifles are available to the American public, would you be in favor of banning assault rifles for purchase by the American public?
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-man View Post
    And if there is a chance of one domestic terrorism act because Trump has alienated and "radicalized" any of our population by painting all (potential) immigrants with the same brush, then he should not be President.
    Yeah..I don't know who I'm voting for..I can tell you it won't be hillary or the Donald. I'm thinking of writing my dog in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    I'm just curious. If there is a chance of one domestic terrorism act (say killing innocent children in a grade school in Newtown) because assault rifles are available to the American public, would you be in favor of banning assault rifles for purchase by the American public?
    People kill people not guns...maybe outlaw crazy people would be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    I'm just curious. If there is a chance of one domestic terrorism act (say killing innocent children in a grade school in Newtown) because assault rifles are available to the American public, would you be in favor of banning assault rifles for purchase by the American public?
    Nobody outside the military or law enforcement needs an assault rifle. I rarely take stands on topics like this, but what good is served?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xu82 View Post
    Nobody outside the military or law enforcement needs an assault rifle. I rarely take stands on topics like this, but what good is served?
    I will say that I don't necessarily agree that citizens need to have assault rifles...the problem I have is the government telling me what I can or cannot have. I'm worried of the slippery slope.

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    There was a post that was deleted (and I can get you - unnamed poster - not wanting to get too deep in this, seriously!) but I wanted to comment on it. My wife is Lebanese, and her mother is at her family home outside of Beirut at this moment. It's less that I distrust the Lebanese or Syrians (where much of her family is also from) than that I don't trust our ability to vet the good people from the bad people. Hell, I'd like to ship some of our people over there! It's not about skin color or religion. It's just hard to tell who the crazy bastards are. Now I've broken my informal rule twice. Thanks Snipe! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    I will say that I don't necessarily agree that citizens need to have assault rifles...the problem I have is the government telling me what I can or cannot have. I'm worried of the slippery slope.
    I fully understand that, but where is the line drawn? What if I want some plutonium because I like to make amazing bombs? There has to be a line, and I see no reason for assault weapons. What good has come of them in recent decades? If anyone can think of anything, does it offset the bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xu82 View Post
    I fully understand that, but where is the line drawn? What if I want some plutonium because I like to make amazing bombs? There has to be a line, and I see no reason for assault weapons. What good has come of them in recent decades? If anyone can think of anything, does it offset the bad?
    Can you please define what you believe to be an assault weapon? It's hard to have a convo about this since it is not a term used by people who have an understanding of firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    if you can't see a comparison, I feel sorry for you. Refugee or not, there are processes in place to vet individuals...those processes have failed in the past. Do you really feel that the process for letting refugees in this country are full proof,especially refugees coming from a country that has fought for thousands of years and a large number of the population that disagree with our way of life?
    Hang on. So your basis for keeping ALL refugees out of this country is founded on the fact that U.S. government wasn't able to see into the future that the young boy they granted asylum would grow up to bomb the Boston Marathon? Are you serious? Do you realize how unbelievably stupid that sounds?

    Do you actually know any Muslim people? And I mean really know them, not just casually see them around the office or have to (God forbid) share a grocery store aisle with one. Do you call any Muslims friend and have them to your home for dinner, or socialize with them regularly? I doubt you do. You just like to pass judgment on everyone who doesn't look like you, sound like you or worship like you.

    I'm more scared of your rhetoric than I am a Syrian refugee because the nonsense you and Trump spout is far more of a threat to the American Constitution and the American way of life than any terrorist could ever be. Unless you can trace your ancestry back to Squanto or Pocahontas, take a seat and STFU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyMuskie View Post
    Hang on. So your basis for keeping ALL refugees out of this country is founded on the fact that U.S. government wasn't able to see into the future that the young boy they granted asylum would grow up to bomb the Boston Marathon? Are you serious? Do you realize how unbelievably stupid that sounds?

    Do you actually know any Muslim people? And I mean really know them, not just casually see them around the office or have to (God forbid) share a grocery store aisle with one. Do you call any Muslims friend and have them to your home for dinner, or socialize with them regularly? I doubt you do. You just like to pass judgment on everyone who doesn't look like you, sound like you or worship like you.

    I'm more scared of your rhetoric than I am a Syrian refugee because the nonsense you and Trump spout is far more of a threat to the American Constitution and the American way of life than any terrorist could ever be. Unless you can trace your ancestry back to Squanto or Pocahontas, take a seat and STFU.
    What does me knowing any Muslims have to do with anything? Great argument! I have nothing against muslims or anyone that is different from me by the way..except for those pesky terrorist groups. I'll tell you what I do know. Radical Islam exists, and they would like to destroy our way of life. Unfortunately, it is hard to tell someone's true intentions even with vetting processes in place. Maybe check out the story about the iraqi terrosits who claimed they were refugees and got into our country. You know that isis has infiltrated their way into European countries by saying they are Syrian refugees? Check that out. The same could happen here. I'd rather not risk it at this point.

    Hilarious you make a comment on passing judgment on people. Typical liberal...so accepting of other people's thoughts and beliefs until they are different from yours.
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