Politics Thread

[paulxu]

Just like in Iraq when inspections were working, no weapons were found…but we launched a war that costs tens of thousands of lives, including Americans, for nothing.
The JCPOA was working, inspectors were there, and the enriched uranium was shipped to other countries.
We pull out of a multinational agreement, and they go back to enriching.
There are always war plans…but they aren’t needed if you stay in the agreement.
So keyboard warrior bone spurs bombs the country…and now offers the same concessions as Obama for no more enrichment.
Bibi suckered him through Fox, and he keeps on suckering you.
Got your sneakers yet?

[GoMuskies]

Got your sneakers yet?

I love that you still remember that and that you thought I was serious and not mocking Trump. That must be from like the first Trump admin.

The news says it was February of 2024. Feels like longer ago, but it was actually only like 10 years ago.

[paulxu]

Sneakers comment not directed to you.
For all the people who signed up; I’m guessing they moved in to the phone.
You probably understand he’s only a con man.

[noteggs]

Yes both sides suck. Now if someone wants to make the case their side sucks less, I’m willing to listen. But they first must admit their side sucks.

Otherwise, it is just partisan bullshit.

[waggy]

The current Trump administration has quite a few former Dems. These people aren't as far right as the remaining lefties think. It's just that the party turned hard left and drove off the cliff.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

To be honest for me, my vote changed with all the pronouns, identity politics, extreme feminism, and catering to the LGBTQ stuff. I am still socially liberal and am in favor of people making their own choices right or wrong, but Harris was just too much to stomach.

[Muskie in dayton]

It seems complete understanding of the damage is still a question, with some senators being briefed who note exactly that. I would guess it might be a while before the real answer comes out.
Meanwhile, I see the administration is discussing the same sort of terms as the JCPOA; freeing up Iranian assets, granting loans to start a nuclear program for peaceful purposes as long as enrichment levels remain low, etc.
Just think, we were right there before Trump pulled us out. Well done.

The bombs and missiles have stopped flying and Paul is holding out hope that somehow damage to Iran's nuclear weapons facilities were minimal so Trump can't have a victory. You are one sick MF. Literally, Trump could single-handedly cure cancer and you'd be out here telling us why that is a bad thing.

For the second bolded statement, I ask you again, how many times will you parrot fake news, look stupid, then continue to believe and parrot fake news?

Seriously, seek help.

[Muskie in dayton]

The current Trump administration has quite a few former Dems. These people aren't as far right as the remaining lefties think. It's just that the party turned hard left and drove off the cliff.

Bingo. No more than a decade ago I was the Dem supporting folks like Tulsi, Elon and RFK Jr., (or the causes they espouse). I still do. I haven't changed, the Dems have.

Dems need to take a hard look at their values and how they align with today's party, instead of just focusing on "orange man bad".

For fun, go back and listen to Obama's speech at the 2004 Dem convention (the one that propelled him). The vast majority of that echoes what the Trump administration stands for. If he delivered that speech today, he'd be... well... on Trump's cabinet.

[Muskie in dayton]

For those still questioning the differences between Dems & Rethuglicans, just listen to Sen. Mitch McConnell's comment about cuts to Medicaid: "Get over it." Yes, my conservative friends, this is the senior senator from Kentucky, former Majority Leader of the Senate, and overall fool. How can you continue to support legislators with such attitudes? When rural hospitals close, when pharmacies go bankrupt, when mothers and children throughout the Commonwealth die, thank your lucky stars for having such representation. So sad!

Bad news for you, buddy. As one of your "conservative friends", we view Mitch McConnell as worse than a Democrat. And he's not a fool. A fool does not get rich on the backs of the American public for decades without getting caught. He is unethical and a crook, but not a fool. The classic swamp creature.

[Muskie in dayton]

WSJ headline: "Stock Market Today: S&P 500, Nasdaq Trade Above Previous Record Closing Levels"

But I was reliably told this is just "transitory.

Market drops = Trumps fault. Market rises = transitory. This is the gospel according to Paul.