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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton View Post
    If criminal acts aren’t prosecuted, they aren’t crimes. Think about it.
    Yes, I understand that. I even said as much in the post you quoted. Now, what data suggests NYC is not prosecuting criminal acts? What is the basis of your statement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xubrew View Post
    Yes, I understand that. I even said as much in the post you quoted. Now, what data suggests NYC is not prosecuting criminal acts? What is the basis of your statement?
    Allow me. I've got some time on my hands.

    https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/p....%201%2C055%29.

    https://nypost.com/2024/04/03/us-new...play-disorder/

    https://www.newsweek.com/alvin-bragg...-trump-1789040

    https://www.npr.org/2021/06/24/10095...y-from-the-job

    The "whistling past the graveyard" analogy is a perfect fit here......again. You people are going to get a real wake up call if this Big City progressive criminal justice trend continues. Do you not realize that normal Law Enforcement engagements with criminal activity is negatively effected do to the NEW high risk elements envolved? Do you not understand that the entire playbook of any Criminal Justice prosecutor is to drastically reduce overall prosecutions? Obviously not because you think crime is down.

    Having that mindset AND the ability to vote is just plain dangerous.
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    Look ma I can find stuff on the internet that fits a narrative to.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna146904

    https://www.fox5ny.com/news/nyc-marc...statistics.amp

    https://www.amny.com/news/crime-up-nyc-still-safer/

    Must have been all those conservative Giuliani and Republican lawmakers policies to make crime so bad back in 2000 yada yada yada....


    Some of you all need to get out more and realize you can literally find anything on the internet to support a narrative.

    I do love though that one link of “evidence” was that trump and his allies said so. We may as well close the book on it then. Trump said so, so it must be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    Wake up and don't be so closed minded.
    Comedy gold right here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuperman View Post
    Allow me. I've got some time on my hands.

    https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/p....%201%2C055%29.

    https://nypost.com/2024/04/03/us-new...play-disorder/

    https://www.newsweek.com/alvin-bragg...-trump-1789040

    https://www.npr.org/2021/06/24/10095...y-from-the-job

    The "whistling past the graveyard" analogy is a perfect fit here......again. You people are going to get a real wake up call if this Big City progressive criminal justice trend continues. Do you not realize that normal Law Enforcement engagements with criminal activity is negatively effected do to the NEW high risk elements envolved? Do you not understand that the entire playbook of any Criminal Justice prosecutor is to drastically reduce overall prosecutions? Obviously not because you think crime is down.

    Having that mindset AND the ability to vote is just plain dangerous.
    Thanks for sharing these.

    The first article is from 2022.

    The last article is from 2021, and indicates that there was a spike in crime, which there was. After COVID, crime went up once people started going outside again.

    The other two seem to indicate that MORE (not less) of the reported felonies are being prosecuted.


    I'm not coming at this from a political point of view. I'm coming at this as someone who likes going to NYC, and who once actually considered moving to NYC, and who has a lot of friends who live there. Everyone says that NYC is this dangerous place, and that crime is out of control, and that nothing is done to combat the out of control violent crime. That is just CATEGORICALLY not true! It's safe! it's VERY safe! The streets feel safe. The subways feel safe. The bars feel safe. Most people don't think of NYC as having nice beaches, but they actually do, and those are safe as well. People who say NYC is dangerous all seem to have one thing in common. They've NEVER actually been there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xubrew View Post
    Thanks for sharing these.

    The first article is from 2022.

    The last article is from 2021, and indicates that there was a spike in crime, which there was. After COVID, crime went up once people started going outside again.

    The other two seem to indicate that MORE (not less) of the reported felonies are being prosecuted.


    I'm not coming at this from a political point of view. I'm coming at this as someone who likes going to NYC, and who once actually considered moving to NYC, and who has a lot of friends who live there. Everyone says that NYC is this dangerous place, and that crime is out of control, and that nothing is done to combat the out of control violent crime. That is just CATEGORICALLY not true! It's safe! it's VERY safe! The streets feel safe. The subways feel safe. The bars feel safe. Most people don't think of NYC as having nice beaches, but they actually do, and those are safe as well. People who say NYC is dangerous all seem to have one thing in common. They've NEVER actually been there.
    Or listen to people like Cruz and Trump and believe everything they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    In other words you’re basing your opinion on feelings and your narrative.

    From a factual perspective, it’s one of the safest large cities in the country, if not the world.

    From a personal standpoint, I’ve been to New York a ton over the last decade as a brother went to college, law school and lived there. Bronx, queens and manhattan. Never felt unsafe there ever. More nervous in downtown Louisville or St. Louis than there.
    I agree completely!!

    I'm going to be in Rome in a couple of weeks. I've been there before. It doesn't feel as safe as NYC. I have some friends who live near Rome and they feel the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xubrew View Post
    I agree completely!!

    I'm going to be in Rome in a couple of weeks. I've been there before. It doesn't feel as safe as NYC. I have some friends who live near Rome and they feel the same way.
    Maybe Trump and Hunter can be cell mates.

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    Is this the point where someone runs around shouting fake trial, weaponized justice system, sham trial, revenge coming, etc.?
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    See how nuts you've become? ....... Most federal prosecutors, including Fox's own Trey Gowdy, say they'd never prosecute. It wasn't used in a crime........

    If he's found guilty, he'll get whatever the judge decides...just like Trump. Wake up and don't be so closed minded.
    Maybe this will help.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...olumn-00162083
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    Guess it didn't help you guys. Sad.
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