Politics Thread

[Strange Brew]

I don’t remember Biden overruling the Supreme Court and forgiving my students loans.

The Court ruled he couldn’t and he recently did it. Probably because it would have saved his Uncle from cannibals..:)

Edit: No comment on the Obama drone strike?

[STL_XUfan]

The Court ruled he couldn’t and he recently did it. Probably because it would have saved his Uncle from cannibals..:)

Edit: No comment on the Obama drone strike?

That is not what happened. They ruled he couldn’t do it under a specific law, so they have used other laws to forgive the loans you have seen in the news. Nothing he has done has been in contradiction to the Supreme Court’s ruling.

As far as why I didn’t comment on Obama, it is because I don’t know shit about the rules of engagement. I do know something about the Supreme Court so I choose to call out your bullshit on the subject when it appears.

[bobbiemcgee]

Edit: No comment on the Obama drone strike?

63 soldier suckers"died under trump

[Strange Brew]

That is not what happened. They ruled he couldn’t do it under a specific law, so they have used other laws to forgive the loans you have seen in the news. Nothing he has done has been in contradiction to the Supreme Court’s ruling.

As far as why I didn’t comment on Obama, it is because I don’t know shit about the rules of engagement. I do know something about the Supreme Court so I choose to call out your bullshit on the subject when it appears.

Bullshit. The Court said no and Biden did it anyway.

Yes. Obama killed an American Citizen (not a good dude btw) on foreign soil without trial. You can hide behind your garbage all you want. Please stop talking about dictators and Justice.


I’d have more respect for you if you’d just admit it.

Edit: How do you feel about Biden’s EO? Is there going to be a bouncer at the border with a “clicker”.


Absolute clown show.

[Strange Brew]

63 soldier suckers"died under trump

How many died needlessly during the incompetent Afghan pullout?

How many Americans are still held hostage in Hamas?

Clown show.

Edit: Hunter’s laptop is in evidence in DE. Weird, because we were told it was Russian disinfo.

Clown show.

Edit: only 63 KIA under Trump? That has to be a record low over the past 70 years.

[STL_XUfan]

Bullshit. The Court said no and Biden did it anyway.

I mean that isn’t what happened or what they said. From the syllabus of the court “The text of the HEROES Act does not authorize the Secretary’s loan forgiveness program. The Secretary’s power under the Act to “modify” does not permit “basic and fundamental changes in the scheme” designed by Congress. MCI Telecommunications Corp. v. American Telephone & Telegraph Co., 512 U. S. 218, 225. Instead, “modify” carries “a connotation of increment or limitation,” and must be read to mean “to change moderately or in minor fashion.” Ibid. That is how the word is ordinarily used and defined, and the legal def- inition is no different.”

Ruling concerned the right to forgive loans under the HEROS act. Didn’t say that the federal government could not forgive loans under other programs such as the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Act, which is a lot of the forgiveness you have seen in the media.

You can read the opinion here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...2-506_nmip.pdf

[Strange Brew]

I mean that isn’t what happened or what they said. From the syllabus of the court “The text of the HEROES Act does not authorize the Secretary’s loan forgiveness program. The Secretary’s power under the Act to “modify” does not permit “basic and fundamental changes in the scheme” designed by Congress. MCI Telecommunications Corp. v. American Telephone & Telegraph Co., 512 U. S. 218, 225. Instead, “modify” carries “a connotation of increment or limitation,” and must be read to mean “to change moderately or in minor fashion.” Ibid. That is how the word is ordinarily used and defined, and the legal def- inition is no different.”

Ruling concerned the right to forgive loans under the HEROS act. Didn’t say that the federal government could not forgive loans under other programs such as the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Act, which is a lot of the forgiveness you have seen in the media.

You can read the opinion here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...2-506_nmip.pdf

Yeah, cute. The Court said no and your dear leader did it anyway.

I’ll pivot. Do you believe the average taxpayer should be on the hook for someone’s else’s loan?

Who is your preferred dictator? Mao, Stalin (the American Left loved that guy), or Che?


Edit: Did you mean synopsis rather than a syllabus?….

[paulxu]

I’ll pivot. Do you believe the average taxpayer should be on the hook for someone’s else’s loan?

Were you this upset about the $700+billion of the paycheck loans that were forgiven? Including the ones that went to members of Congress?

Or is it a Biden hangup?

[bjf123]

Were you this upset about the $700+billion of the paycheck loans that were forgiven? Including the ones that went to members of Congress?

Or is it a Biden hangup?

Wasn’t the PPP loan forgiveness part of the legislation passed by Congress, the group that controls the purse strings? Congress didn’t authorize any forgiveness of student loan debt. Big difference.


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[paulxu]

The point was "should the average taxpayer be on the hook for someone else's loan."

Both actions accomplished that. Congress and the president.