Politics Thread

[xubrew]

He has stated many times it won:t be a fair election if he loses. He has promised to be a Dictator and will suspend the constitution.

Okay, when did he actually say this?? I missed when he said he would be a dictator and suspend the Constitution. I don't doubt that he'd LIKE to do that, but I don't think he's actually ever stated it that pointedly.

[GoMuskies]

Just throwing a temper tantrum? I mean Jan 6th was kind of a big deal, what if there was four years of that? I'm not interested in four more years of retribution politics---and that could certainly equate to the possibility of acting more like a dictator than a President.

I'm not particularly interested in it, either, but I'm not particularly interested in four more years of whatever Joe Biden and the gang have to offer either. I just haven't seen a remotely compelling argument for electing Trump being the end of democracy (or our republican form of government). I've seen a lot of fear porn and people repeating the line over and over.

[bobbiemcgee]

HA he's already been convicted in the porn case.

[xubrew]

The fringe on one side believes men can get pregnant and that a terrorist organization that Amnesty International has called out for its flagrant violations of international law deserves our support and protests in favor of them.

The fringe on the other side believes that any election they lose is not free and fair and that any books they decide they don't like should be banned.

The one thing that both sides have in common is an opposition to free speech. They want to cancel anyone/anything they don't like hearing.

GOOD JOB AMERICA!!

[GoMuskies]

What is apparently NOT a threat to democracy is Michigan and Colorado Democrats attempting to prevent the leading candidate in the Presidential election from being on the ballot (but it probably IS a threat to democracy when Republicans threaten to enforce a dumb rule to keep Biden off the ballot in Ohio).

[GoMuskies]

The fringe on the other side believes that any election they lose is not free and fair and that any books they decide they don't like should be banned.

I believe you'll find that BOTH sides have made plenty of claims that elections they've lost were not free and fair (see, eg. Gore, Al; Clinton, Hillary; Abrams, Stacey for a few examples on the "other" side) and have attempted to censor books/ideas they don't like (see the reaction to Abigail Shrier for an example).

[bobbiemcgee]

I believe you'll find that BOTH sides have made plenty of claims that elections they've lost were not free and fair (see, eg. Gore, Al; Clinton, Hillary; Abrams, Stacey for a few examples on the "other" side) and have attempted to censor books/ideas they don't like (see the reaction to Abigail Shrier for an example).

Difference being they all conceded. Still waiting for Trump to make the call

[paulxu]

Don’t hold your breath.
And what about Washington State? Apparently convicted felons can’t be on the ballot.

[Strange Brew]

I think the issue with checks and balances is that there has to be buy in from all of the branches.

There is the probably apocryphal statement from Andrew Jackson on the Supreme Court "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it." If he just openly ignores the checks and balances, who is going to enforce them against him? His first term felt like the velociraptors testing the fence. He will not make the mistake again of having anyone in the DOJ or in other high ranking positions that will honor and uphold the constitution over their fidelity to Trump.

Haha, sounds like Joe on the student loan bailout or Obama executing an American citizen without trial.

The Left loves dictators.

[STL_XUfan]

Haha, sounds like Joe on the student loan bailout or Obama executing an American citizen without trial.

The Left loves dictators.

I don’t remember Biden overruling the Supreme Court and forgiving my students loans.