Politics Thread

[GoMuskies]

Can someone explain to me like I'm a toddler how electing Donald Trump in a free and fair election will "destroy democracy"?

[xuwillie]

I care deeply about getting to the bottom of all the lies told by Fauci and his minions. Millions/billions of lives needlessly turned upside down, phony guidance for how to live and work dictated in the name of "science" and then coercing millions/billions into taking a shot of unknown safety and effectiveness. Denying responsibility and hiding behind "to the best of my knowledge" isn't going to fly.

And young healthy people are still wearing masks today. “Science “ took a huge hit yesterday but of course all the dems still tried to glorify his work. Amazing

[xubrew]

Can someone explain to me like I'm a toddler how electing Donald Trump in a free and fair election will "destroy democracy"?

Electing him in a free and fair election wouldn't.

But AFTER he's elected, would HE destroy it? Is he such a narcissist that he'd put his own self interests above everything else and try to defy the checks and balances that our democracy depends on? I don't think our democracy would be destroyed if he wins, but I also don't think it's completely unreasonable to be concerned. J6 kind of flew completely in the face of what we know our Democracy to be.

And, it's also fair to ask if our democracy is currently working the way that it should be. If we live in a democracy, and the vast majority of the people don't want an election between Trump and Biden (which it seems pretty clear that they don't), then why did we end up with an election between Trump and Biden?

[GoMuskies]

How would he destroy it after being elected? That's why we have checks and balances. So no one can destroy it.

[xubrew]

How would he destroy it after being elected? That's why we have checks and balances. So no one can destroy it.

Good question! The concern is that he would try and bypass/ignore the checks and balances if they ever kept him from doing what he wanted to do. Would he succeed? I'm guessing not. But, I understand the concern, especially after how he responded to the last free and fair election we had.

[GoMuskies]

By losing, throwing a temper tantrum, having all the checks and balances work perfectly, and walking out of office on Inauguration Day?

[bobbiemcgee]

He has stated many times it won:t be a fair election if he loses. He has promised to be a Dictator and will suspend the constitution.

[Xville]

By losing, throwing a temper tantrum, having all the checks and balances work perfectly, and walking out of office on Inauguration Day?

Just throwing a temper tantrum? I mean Jan 6th was kind of a big deal, what if there was four years of that? I'm not interested in four more years of retribution politics---and that could certainly equate to the possibility of acting more like a dictator than a President.

[STL_XUfan]

How would he destroy it after being elected? That's why we have checks and balances. So no one can destroy it.

I think the issue with checks and balances is that there has to be buy in from all of the branches.

There is the probably apocryphal statement from Andrew Jackson on the Supreme Court "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it." If he just openly ignores the checks and balances, who is going to enforce them against him? His first term felt like the velociraptors testing the fence. He will not make the mistake again of having anyone in the DOJ or in other high ranking positions that will honor and uphold the constitution over their fidelity to Trump.

[xubrew]

By losing, throwing a temper tantrum, having all the checks and balances work perfectly DESPITE HIM TRYING TO OVERTHROW THE ELECTION RESULTS, and walking out of office on Inauguration Day?

The bolden part that I added is the concern. If he tries to run over the checks and balances again, will he succeed and will he damage our democracy in the process?? Perhaps not. The checks and balances held firm the last time. But, I can at least understand why people would be concerned.