Politics Thread

[bjf123]

Can one of our left leaning posters here explain to me why it’s ok for Gavin Newsom to sign a law prohibiting mail in ballots for union votes but it’s fine for other types of voting? Seems to me to be a little hypocritical.

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[Masterofreality]

It’s also pretty amazing that our left wing posters on here are totally silent on the Durham report that detailed a surreptitious insurrection vs a sitting President, who was duly elected. Plus the insurrection was based upon a losing candidate’s false paid “research” and put the country through 3 years of hell. Meanwhile lying Adam Schiff still gets a forum with Jake Tapper.
I guess “threats to democracy” only are applicable when the oppo seems to be the perp.
“The Club” was threatened by an outside “interloper”. He must be destroyed.
Meanwhile- gas price when TFG left office $2.39. Price now (here) $3.69.
Hillary couldn’t be bothered to visit Wisconsin, tho.

[STL_XUfan]

It’s also pretty amazing that our left wing posters on here are totally silent on the Durham report that detailed a surreptitious insurrection vs a sitting President, who was duly elected. Plus the insurrection was based upon a losing candidate’s false paid “research” and put the country through 3 years of hell. Meanwhile lying Adam Schiff still gets a forum with Jake Tapper.
I guess “threats to democracy” only are applicable when the oppo seems to be the perp.
“The Club” was threatened by an outside “interloper”. He must be destroyed.
Meanwhile- gas price when TFG left office $2.39. Price now (here) $3.69.
Hillary couldn’t be bothered to visit Wisconsin, tho.

Namely because it didn't say anything close to that. It found that there was confirmation bias and that the investigation wasn't up to the high standard the FBI holds itself to, but found no proof of political bias or any sort of "surreptitious insurrection." Hence why it lead to one conviction for doctoring an email in support of a subpoena. But spin it however you want.

[Xville]

Well, I do believe you are 100% stupid enough to say it. And that is based on what I read… and you write.

Based on What you read is true, just like your brilliant spin analysis of the Durham report. I guess if you only read spin, you start believing nonsense after a while.

Some of you really need to get your mouth off of trumps junk and stop believing everything he says. I learned to stop believing politicians years ago, some of you haven’t quite learned that lesson yet.

[bobbiemcgee]

Mirrored the earlier IG report. No new arrests, 2 failed prosecutions, 4 yrs. time and money wasted. Nothingburger.

[Masterofreality]

Namely because it didn't say anything close to that. It found that there was confirmation bias and that the investigation wasn't up to the high standard the FBI holds itself to, but found no proof of political bias or any sort of "surreptitious insurrection." Hence why it lead to one conviction for doctoring an email in support of a subpoena. But spin it however you want.

Mirrored the earlier IG report. No new arrests, 2 failed prosecutions, 4 yrs. time and money wasted. Nothingburger.

Uh huh. That’s why the FBI took great pains to state that the agency had made numerous changes and installed new safeguards within its procedures previous to the issuance of Durham’s report. And Strzok wasn’t politically biased?? Also, why did agents take out liability insurance ?? WTF are you smoking?!? Some nothingburger.
By the way. The numerous failed accusations of Russian Collusion vs Trump didn’t seem to affect your continuous railing against him. Why is that?
Finally. How can you not admit that this entire exercise was to totally undermine a duly elected President. Sounds like a surreptitious coup to me!

https://www.dailywire.com/news/its-a...ntial-lawsuits

[paulxu]

Pretty simple. The Mueller Report, the IG's report, and the Republican Senate Intelligence committee all determined that Russia actively work to support efforts to undermine Clinton's campaign and help Trump get elected.
You don't want to call it collusion, which is not even a legally defined term for breaking the law. I'll call it collusion as a lay term for the Trump campaign manager to hand polling and other data to a Russian intelligence officer so they could target their social media campaigns to help Trump. Certainly sounds like they might have "colluded." Or Russians hacking various Dems and releasing it to hurt a campaign. They didn't hack Trump's people.
Durham wasted 4 years, took a couple of people to court who were found not guilty, and had one charge thrown out by the judge.
A waste.
Mueller led to Stone and Flynn being convicted and subsequently being pardoned by Trump. Great record.
Bannon gets pardoned for his build the wall scam, while his buddies on the project go to jail. Nice.

[xuphan]

Based on What you read is true, just like your brilliant spin analysis of the Durham report. I guess if you only read spin, you start believing nonsense after a while.

Some of you really need to get your mouth off of trumps junk and stop believing everything he says. I learned to stop believing politicians years ago, some of you haven’t quite learned that lesson yet.

https://twitter.com/therecount/statu...617794?lang=en

Even Trump would agree with this.

[Smails]

Pretty simple. The Mueller Report, the IG's report, and the Republican Senate Intelligence committee all determined that Russia actively work to support efforts to undermine Clinton's campaign and help Trump get elected.
You don't want to call it collusion, which is not even a legally defined term for breaking the law. I'll call it collusion as a lay term for the Trump campaign manager to hand polling and other data to a Russian intelligence officer so they could target their social media campaigns to help Trump. Certainly sounds like they might have "colluded." Or Russians hacking various Dems and releasing it to hurt a campaign. They didn't hack Trump's people.
Durham wasted 4 years, took a couple of people to court who were found not guilty, and had one charge thrown out by the judge.
A waste.
Mueller led to Stone and Flynn being convicted and subsequently being pardoned by Trump. Great record.
Bannon gets pardoned for his build the wall scam, while his buddies on the project go to jail. Nice.

This is a waste??
CNN
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Special counsel John Durham concluded that the FBI should never have launched a full investigation into connections between Donald Trump’s campaign and Russia during the 2016 election, according to a report compiled over three years by the Trump-administration appointee and released on Monday.

Durham’s 300-plus page report also states that the FBI used “raw, unanalyzed, and uncorroborated intelligence,” to launch the “Crossfire Hurricane” investigation into Trump and Russia but used a different standard when weighing concerns about alleged election interference regarding Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

In a statement Monday, the FBI said its leadership has “already implemented dozens of corrective actions, which have now been in place for some time,” in response to the conduct examined by Durham. “Had those reforms been in place in 2016, the missteps identified in the report could have been prevented,” the statement adds.

Monday, Durham knocked the FBI for failing to take several steps before launching the Trump campaign investigations, such as interviewing relevant witnesses, reviewing its own intelligence databases or using “any of the standard analytical tools typically employed by the FBI in evaluating raw intelligence.”

Durham suggested that if the FBI had taken those steps, it would have found that US intelligence agencies did not have any evidence tying Trump to Russian leadership officials.

Nothing to see here...move along. The top investigative arm of our government launched a completely bogus investigation into a sitting President based on nothing more than party bias. That arm was investigated, found to be incompetent, and has since put certain checks and balances in place to make sure that this kind of buffoonery never take place again. Sounds like a win for people who appreciate equal application of the rules. For those who like to see our government agencies used to take down political opposition..they'll call it a waste.

[bobbiemcgee]

So you are with the republicans who want to defund/disband the FBI? Has a familiar sound to it.