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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    It can't be a tax issue. The state doesn't let you pick the value of your property for assessment purposes. I believe it relates to allegations that lenders were defrauded when providing loans to the Trump organization because real estate values/collateral were overstated.
    Sometimes it can be a tax issue when overvaluing gets you a break on your federal taxes.

    https://www.eenews.net/articles/n-y-...ent-tax-break/

    Or when you pay to have values lowered in other instances to reduce your tax burden.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/t...-assessors-say

    As to the potential criminal parts:
    AG James said that her office had referred her findings to the US Attorney’s Office in NY and to the IRS.
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xubrew View Post
    I don't know that he broke any. I asked a question. I didn't make an accusation. I said that if the allegation is that he devalued his property so he could cheat on his taxes, that doesn't sound like a civil suit. That sounds more like a criminal case (or I guess more specifically, a tax fraud case). So, why was a CIVIL suits?
    Hmmm. Quote: “ pretty well documented, but let's stick to going after him for the laws that he actually broke and the damage that he actually caused.”
    Sounds pretty accusatory and definitive to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterofreality View Post
    Hmmm. Quote: “ pretty well documented, but let's stick to going after him for the laws that he actually broke and the damage that he actually caused.”
    Sounds pretty accusatory and definitive to me.
    Oh, THAT. Okay, I thought you meant just with this particular suit.

    Stealing presidential documents, some of which were classified, and the whole Jan 6th thing. He’s being investigated for both, and it’s highly probable he’ll be indicted in federal court for at least one of those, and perhaps eventually both of them.
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    Unless you declassified them in your mind.
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    Maybe there is something to these hearings on price gouging. Think they should also go after small businesses. Last night I had to pay $8.59 for a 4 way at Skyline. Are you kidding me! Hopefully X can see this atrocity and drop them as a sponsor. If not, I will be a one man boycott at games this year.

    This is what I think of Letitia James political and theatrical civil suit against Trump. May have given her more credit if she didn’t run her campaign on suing this illegitimate president. Oh no…election denier!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xubrew View Post
    Oh, THAT. Okay, I thought you meant just with this particular suit.

    Stealing presidential documents, some of which were classified, and the whole Jan 6th thing. He’s being investigated for both, and it’s highly probable he’ll be indicted in federal court for at least one of those, and perhaps eventually both of them.
    He’s been indicted for nothing. Everything you cite is 100% partisanship.
    Highly probable? Speculation. You sound like Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    Unless you declassified them in your mind.
    Yeah, well even if he had declassified them “with his mind” he is currently not the president and as per the PRA the files do not personally belong to him.

    Going off of Trump’s own (stupid and incorrect) logic, if Biden, who is CURRENTLY the president, says they are classified (I guess even with just his mind), then they are CURRENTLY classified!! Hence, he is committing a crime by taking them and not giving them back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterofreality View Post
    He’s been indicted for nothing. Everything you cite is 100% partisanship.
    Highly probable? Speculation. You sound like Paul.
    Yes, it is speculation, but I’d say it’s highly likely. I’d also question the common sense of anyone who says otherwise. He may not be indicted for anything for another full year. The feds take their time. I believe it took them four years to indict anyone for the Mississippi Burning murders. It oftentimes took them years to bring down indictments against mafia bosses. He’s being investigated, and quite frankly it’s not looking so good. The fact that he hasn’t been indicted is hardly an indication that he never will be.
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    Somewhere there was a "highly probable" cause given to a judge that a crime(s) had been committed, and a search warrant was issued.

    It's "speculation" that the 100 documents marked top secret and above were....well, you know...actually top secret.

    Why, even the 3 judge panel over-ruling the former's hand picked judge (2 of them also picked by him), issued an order that was "100% partisanship."

    So, watch yourself there Brew.
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    Unless you declassified them in your mind.
    Clients making statements without running it by their attorneys first is why attorneys have a reputation of being heavy drinkers. I am sure his counsel poured a large glass of bourbon after seeing those statements.
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