Politics Thread

[Strange Brew]

So, the couple that sold Biden's daughter's diary to Project Veritas have plead guilty to crimes that carry up to 5 years.

This situation is hard to get a handle on. I believe they were charged with Federal crimes, so the Biden DOJ could prosecute the case. One would think that a plea bargain will be made, for cooperation in building a case against O'Keefe and PV.

Obviously, the Dems would like nothing more than to get something criminal on O'Keefe. However, Biden damn sure doesn't want the contents of the diary to become a bigger story....but wouldn't Ashley Biden simply say the shower stuff was not true?

This story is complicated. I believe the FBI has made contact with PV employees. Apparently journalists can possess stolen material, but it looks like the DOJ legal argument will be that Project Veritas is not that type of "journalism". Can someone clarify the legalities here?

Comes down to the gov’t deciding who is or isn’t a journalist. Not a power it has but I’m sure some will now say, “the Founders couldn’t have envisioned the Internet when the wrote the 1A”.

[paulxu]

If the former president has an issue with executive privilege of records from his administration, the PRA requires it be brought to the District Court in the DC, not to a judge in Florida.

The WSJ misses the point that the crimes noted in the warrant are primarily Obstruction of Justice, and Espionage.
The FBI had great concern from early documents that highly classified US intelligence could fall into the wrong hands, and moved to secure them after a number of attempts and 18 months of trying.

[Strange Brew]

If the former president has an issue with executive privilege of records from his administration, the PRA requires it be brought to the District Court in the DC, not to a judge in Florida.

The WSJ misses the point that the crimes noted in the warrant are primarily Obstruction of Justice, and Espionage.
The FBI had great concern from early documents that highly classified US intelligence could fall into the wrong hands, and moved to secure them after a number of attempts and 18 months of trying.

You say this but none of “us” have any idea what the actual documents are. Just what the media says they are. No one has been charged with anything yet. I’ll wait.

We had the Clinton emails (not from Russians before you start).

[paulxu]

Well, we actually have some idea because of what they discovered in the earlier 2 sets of boxes picked up, and also from the receipts provided on this search.

They noted 11 sets of classified information were picked up this time.

[Xuperman]

I'm not that I'm someone to help you.
But, I'll note that Project Veriitas apparently paid money for it and for them to steal other stuff.
I wouldn't suspect the journalistic exception to hold up under those conditions.

I spent the morning reading the most recent developments, but there is so much gray area.

Ashley Biden left stuff behind at some rehab facility for sexual addiction?

The woman that has been charged ended up in the same room and found the stuff, including the diary under a mattress?

Keeping the stuff without attempting to return it is theft? Also, why didn't Ashley realize she forgot those personal belongings? Strange.

Yes, PV admits paying for the stuff, but the big question is, why in the world would Joe Biden want to shine any additional light on this story? The "shower" memories described in the diary are beyond serious and conservative media would certainly run with it if any serious charges were brought against O'Keefe and PV.

None of this makes any sense. There is no way Ashley Biden will confirm the allegations are true, BUT a very large percentage of Americans would find that very hard to swallow.

[Strange Brew]

Well, we actually have some idea because of what they discovered in the earlier 2 sets of boxes picked up, and also from the receipts provided on this search.

They noted 11 sets of classified information were picked up this time.

Who is they Paul?

The potential prosecution and/or those who sought the warrant?

[Masterofreality]

If the former president has an issue with executive privilege of records from his administration, the PRA requires it be brought to the District Court in the DC, not to a judge in Florida.

The WSJ misses the point that the crimes noted in the warrant are primarily Obstruction of Justice, and Espionage.
The FBI had great concern from early documents that highly classified US intelligence could fall into the wrong hands, and moved to secure them after a number of attempts and 18 months of trying.

I don’t think that the Wall Street Journal missed a thing…except what you HOPED to happen.
And, nah. There are no “crimes”, only allegations. Again, you say what you HOPE to happen, but there is no arrest, no indictment, nothing. The President has the power to declassify anything he wants and there is still the issue of attorney client privilege.
How many times are you gonna get hot and bothered over the guy who lives rent free in your head? How many times can you keep delusioning that “The Walls Are Closing In” with Nothingburgers as a result?
This obsession is not good for your health.

[Masterofreality]

Comes down to the gov’t deciding who is or isn’t a journalist. Not a power it has but I’m sure some will now say, “the Founders couldn’t have envisioned the Internet when the wrote the 1A”.

Welp. Most people consider BuzzFeed, that published the debunked Steele Dossier as a journalistic site & it’s only on line. Same with Project Veritas.
You can’t draw a line between whether something that is only “on line” like The Drudge Report or Huffington Post vs The Chicago Tribune is or is not journalistic endeavor IMO.

[bobbiemcgee]

I don’t think that the Wall Street Journal missed a thing…except what you HOPED to happen.
And, nah. There are no “crimes”, only allegations. Again, you say what you HOPE to happen, but there is no arrest, no indictment, nothing. The President has the power to declassify anything he wants and there is still the issue of attorney client privilege.
How many times are you gonna get hot and bothered over the guy who lives rent free in your head? How many times can you keep delusioning that “The Walls Are Closing In” with Nothingburgers as a result?
This obsession is not good for your health.

Yeah he can just wave his magic wand over the docs. Poof! Everybody can read them!

[Masterofreality]

Yeah he can just wave his magic wand over the docs. Poof! Everybody can read them!

You must be referring to Paul. Since he’s convinced he is clairvoyant and knows everything that is there.