Politics Thread

[paulxu]

If you're not smart enough to know, then you are incredibly stupid. Now I don't think that's true, Paul. What I do think is that you would rather call yourself stupid than admit that Joe Biden is responsible for the massacre of US servicemen and women. It's sad that you're so ideologically slanted that you would rather insult yourself than see the situation for what it is. Sad

He's as responsible for it as Reagan was for the 200 hundred killed in Beruit, etc,etc,etc. I don't deny that.
But if you think these decisions are made in a vacuum, without input from the Joint Chiefs, as if he's doing it all on his own...then I don't know what to tell you.
Sure he's ultimately responsible, as much as Bush for lying us into Iraq, or any commander-in-chief for the major decisions.
What is wrong with you guys.

[Strange Brew]

He's as responsible for it as Reagan was for the 200 hundred killed in Beruit, etc,etc,etc. I don't deny that.
But if you think these decisions are made in a vacuum, without input from the Joint Chiefs, as if he's doing it all on his own...then I don't know what to tell you.
Sure he's ultimately responsible, as much as Bush for lying us into Iraq, or any commander-in-chief for the major decisions.
What is wrong with you guys.

How in the world did you compare Biden's blunder to Beruit? Seriously Paul, either you don't understand that incident at all or you're running out of Republicans to blame for things. I really am racking my brain to find anything in US military history as stupid as what Biden did. Bay of Pigs? This is worse. Saigon? Worse. And this isn't over yet.

Since you're bringing up lies to go to war let's talk about Wilson....

[XU_Lou]

In fairness, this video is altered and faked.

I stand corrected!

[Masterofreality]

He's as responsible for it as Reagan was for the 200 hundred killed in Beruit, etc,etc,etc. I don't deny that.
But if you think these decisions are made in a vacuum, without input from the Joint Chiefs, as if he's doing it all on his own...then I don't know what to tell you.
Sure he's ultimately responsible, as much as Bush for lying us into Iraq, or any commander-in-chief for the major decisions.
What is wrong with you guys.

Uh, THIS is the best description of why Joe Biden, and only Joe Biden is at fault for this crap show. A warped unrealistic sense of the real world.

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/2...ng-afghanistan

[X-man]

Uh, THIS is the best description of why Joe Biden, and only Joe Biden is at fault for this crap show. A warped unrealistic sense of the real world.

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/2...ng-afghanistan

Though the article you cite here specifically faults many others, including your man Donald.

Here's the quote: "There were fatal errors at the beginning of the Afghanistan War and there was gross incompetence at the end, but the last two years should not be spared either. In Doha at the beginning of 2020, the US made a formal commitment to make its withdrawal conditional on an inclusive political process. That condition was quickly abandoned, one more element in the collapsing fiction. We are not talking about a moral commandment in the world court of history. We are talking about a piece of paper signed little over a year ago."

[Strange Brew]

Though the article you cite here specifically faults many others, including your man Donald.

Here's the quote: "There were fatal errors at the beginning of the Afghanistan War and there was gross incompetence at the end, but the last two years should not be spared either. In Doha at the beginning of 2020, the US made a formal commitment to make its withdrawal conditional on an inclusive political process. That condition was quickly abandoned, one more element in the collapsing fiction. We are not talking about a moral commandment in the world court of history. We are talking about a piece of paper signed little over a year ago."

Yes, gross criminal negligence at the end. The rest is rhetorical fluff for the pseudo-intellectual fart sniffers.

[X-man]

Yes, gross criminal negligence at the end. The rest is rhetorical fluff for the pseudo-intellectual fart sniffers.

"criminal" is a stretch, but I agree that it was gross negligence. And of course you reject anything critical of anyone that you might support with a petty insult. Way to advance the discussion!

[Strange Brew]

"criminal" is a stretch, but I agree that it was gross negligence. And of course you reject anything critical of anyone that you might support with a petty insult. Way to advance the discussion!

My tolerance for BS is at an all time low X-Man. I’m not sorry for calling out fluff to deflect from the current mess. The previous admin made some mistakes however the strategy of Obama/Biden was just stupid. Especially the ROE for the military and the minimization of the threat in the region. Biden was against the surge and for nation building during that period. His current comments show an obvious lack of leadership and strategic vision. He’s an incompetent person and incapable of the duties of the office. As are the next two in line. The current situation domestically and abroad is FUBAR and rhetorical platitudes will be met with due scorn.

[X-man]

My tolerance for BS is at an all time low X-Man. I’m not sorry for calling out fluff to deflect from the current mess. The previous admin made some mistakes however the strategy of Obama/Biden was just stupid. Especially the ROE for the military and the minimization of the threat in the region. Biden was against the surge and for nation building during that period. His current comments show an obvious lack of leadership and strategic vision. He’s an incompetent person and incapable of the duties of the office. As are the next two in line. The current situation domestically and abroad is FUBAR and rhetorical platitudes will be met with due scorn.

Whatever. I find it amazing, given your intolerance for BS, that you never called out "the former guy".

[xuwillie]

Whatever. I find it amazing, given your intolerance for BS, that you never called out "the former guy".

We’ve been dealing with Bobbie and Paul’s crap for for 4 years. Now we all need to be nice to everyone?! Just your typical hypocrisy