Covid-19

**Muskie in dayton** · 06-02-2021, 11:52 AM

How about those leaked Fauci emails? Having those available last spring would have saved us a lot of time on this forum the last 15 months. Fauci is a complete crook, and should be going to jail. Also, some folks on this board owe the "conspiracy theorists" an apology.

Makes you wonder what else we're being lied to about...

**paulxu** · 06-02-2021, 12:59 PM

I do not understand the need to demonize someone like Fauci.
Like any human, I'm sure he has made mistakes, regrets them, and tries to correct them.
But from all appearances he has devoted his life to science and the control of infectious diseases that harm and/or kill people.

In my lifetime I don't remember such a polarization of public health. From masks to vaccines, there's a concentrated effort to make things a question of some sort of freedom or liberty or political stance. Do not recall people taking that sort of view about polio, or measles, etc.

Sure, there have always been small groups who resisted medical care of one sort or another, often based on religious convictions.
But I never recall wide-scale refusal to work together for a public health good like eradicating a virus that has killed millions already.

Just leaves me wondering what the hell has happened to us all that we've come to this point.
As to Fauci, I think he did the best he could when faced with a situation where the president was recommending injection of bleach.

Strange Brew · 06-02-2021, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

I do not understand the need to demonize someone like Fauci.
Like any human, I'm sure he has made mistakes, regrets them, and tries to correct them.
But from all appearances he has devoted his life to science and the control of infectious diseases that harm and/or kill people.

In my lifetime I don't remember such a polarization of public health. From masks to vaccines, there's a concentrated effort to make things a question of some sort of freedom or liberty or political stance. Do not recall people taking that sort of view about polio, or measles, etc.

Sure, there have always been small groups who resisted medical care of one sort or another, often based on religious convictions.
But I never recall wide-scale refusal to work together for a public health good like eradicating a virus that has killed millions already.

Just leaves me wondering what the hell has happened to us all that we've come to this point.
As to Fauci, I think he did the best he could when faced with a situation where the president was recommending injection of bleach.

Maybe the current POTUS and VP should’ve have said repeatedly to not trust a vaccine developed by the previous admin...

Edit: Just no. After years of being called deniers, Neanderthals, flat-earth, etc you and the Left don’t just get to say oops. You’re just plain wrong about science and should read a book you rube.

**paulxu** · 06-02-2021, 01:50 PM

I appreciate you making my point more clear. Thanks.

Strange Brew · 06-02-2021, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

I appreciate you making my point more clear. Thanks.

Good. Glad you understand it was the Left and the Media that politicized this and people like you are science denying, hillbilly rubes bitterly clinging to their New York Times and failed policies

principal · 06-02-2021, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton

How about those leaked Fauci emails? Having those available last spring would have saved us a lot of time on this forum the last 15 months. Fauci is a complete crook, and should be going to jail. Also, some folks on this board owe the "conspiracy theorists" an apology.

Makes you wonder what else we're being lied to about...

I am totally in the dark in regards to what the Fauci emails have revealed. Is there a new story out there that provides information? If so, could you send it to me? I am not looking for a link to the actual emails, apparently that is easy to obtain, I need something more easily consumed, I can use the actual emails to get context and verify, if needed.

Principal

Xville · 06-02-2021, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by principal

I am totally in the dark in regards to what the Fauci emails have revealed. Is there a new story out there that provides information? If so, could you send it to me? I am not looking for a link to the actual emails, apparently that is easy to obtain, I need something more easily consumed, I can use the actual emails to get context and verify, if needed.

Principal

There are maybe two things that I saw that Muskie in Dayton is all up in arms about 1.) was that back in Feb. 2020, he stated store bought masks were not much help but if they were it was for the affected person to not spread it to the unaffected person (none of this is a revelation) and 2.) speaking with a chinese official that there was no evidence at the time of the virus coming from a lab.

So, as a human, he potentially made a mistake and was incorrect about #2 based on what he knew at the time. I'm not sure why that even really matters. If you want to jail someone, it could be the chinese administration for hiding so much....

Strange Brew · 06-02-2021, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Xville

There are maybe two things that I saw that Muskie in Dayton is all up in arms about 1.) was that back in Feb. 2020, he stated store bought masks were not much help but if they were it was for the affected person to not spread it to the unaffected person (none of this is a revelation) and 2.) speaking with a chinese official that there was no evidence at the time of the virus coming from a lab.

So, as a human, he potentially made a mistake and was incorrect about #2 based on what he knew at the time. I'm not sure why that even really matters. If you want to jail someone, it could be the chinese administration for hiding so much....

And Fauci for funding their research...

principal · 06-02-2021, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Xville

There are maybe two things that I saw that Muskie in Dayton is all up in arms about 1.) was that back in Feb. 2020, he stated store bought masks were not much help but if they were it was for the affected person to not spread it to the unaffected person (none of this is a revelation) and 2.) speaking with a chinese official that there was no evidence at the time of the virus coming from a lab.

So, as a human, he potentially made a mistake and was incorrect about #2 based on what he knew at the time. I'm not sure why that even really matters. If you want to jail someone, it could be the chinese administration for hiding so much....

Thank you Xville. If anyone comes across anything else interesting, please post here with a link.

Principal