Politics Thread

[bobbiemcgee]

Agree. Delta is grandstanding but I’m still going to fly with them. I don’t understand why they felt the need to get involved but whatever.

So you'll "have a coke and a smile". Good.

[Strange Brew]

So you'll "have a coke and a smile". Good.

If that’s what’s being sold and that ad campaign is an all timer so I may buy Coke over Pepsi today because you reminded me of it.

[Masterofreality]

Relax MOR. Yeah, things are tough. New jobs up almost a million, airlines and hotels packed, S&P 4,000, Americans flush with cash, used car market and home sales booming, 200 million covid shots etc. etc. Go see the grandkids.

I coulda said the same thing to you the last Four Years up until the China Virus but you never would have acknowledged it.
Biden hasn’t been in for 100 days yet. Let’s see how this goes in two years, much less four

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I'm a bit confused...do you think cancel culture is stupid or not?

I agree that anyone is free to make their own decisions with their wallet...i mean, of course. I also believe that it is of course within my right to "boycott" a company or whatever because I personally don't agree with their thoughts on x, y, z.

The problem I have with today is the pitchfork cancel culture of I don't agree with x, y, z company or person so neither should anyone else so let's cancel them. That's not a free market if that is what you are implying.

How is one consumer or a group of consumers boycotting a company and bringing to light company practices or products of which they don't approve not the free-market? Is it because they are making their feelings public? Is it the public call to boycott? How are any of those things bad?

This is exactly the free market working from the consumer side. You choosing not to participate in the boycott is also the free market working from the consumer side.

Again, why do you hate the free market?

[Smails]

Again, why do you hate the free market?

You're either being a complete smart-ass or purposefully obtuse. Is it your opinion that those opposed to the cancel culture hate the free market? You know damn well one does not equal the other.

[Xville]

How is one consumer or a group of consumers boycotting a company and bringing to light company practices or products of which they don't approve not the free-market? Is it because they are making their feelings public? Is it the public call to boycott? How are any of those things bad?

This is exactly the free market working from the consumer side. You choosing not to participate in the boycott is also the free market working from the consumer side.

Again, why do you hate the free market?

You have a very distorted view of what free market is and actually means. It is not what you describe above. Free market is an economic term, has zero to do with the above.

So you are either completely ignorant, which I don’t think you are, or you are trying to fit something into whatever narrative you are pushing that doesn’t compute.

Just because you agree with some bs article from the media, doesn’t mean it makes any sense.

cancel culture creates an environment where it is not acceptable to voice ideas. Don’t like what someone is saying? No need to listen or hear them, just silence and cancel them. One of the biggest signs of respect someone can show to you is to say “I have heard your idea, and you are wrong and here is why.” It means they thought your ideas were intelligent enough to listen to, and they did listen, and while they don’t agree they respect you enough to tell you why and share their ideas with you to give you knowledge and a different viewpoint.

But cancel culture says “nay”. It is cowardace. I don’t like what you have to say, I stopped listening to you, and don’t have any ideas to share with you to refute what you are saying, so I’m going to stir others up in droves to silence you and your ideology. It makes us as a society, much weaker., and is not a free market nor has anything to do with a free market.

[bobbiemcgee]

When will people learn you can't bring a knife to a gunfight?

[ArizonaXUGrad]

You have a very distorted view of what free market is and actually means. It is not what you describe above. Free market is an economic term, has zero to do with the above.

So you are either completely ignorant, which I donÂ’t think you are, or you are trying to fit something into whatever narrative you are pushing that doesnÂ’t compute.

Just because you agree with some bs article from the media, doesnÂ’t mean it makes any sense.

How is the free market only driven by the producers? It would seem to me that the free market is driven by both producers and consumers. Prices and products are driven by supply and demand not just supply. A boycott of a product is something kicked off by consumers to dramatically reduce demand for a product and hurt the applicable business. Regardless of the reason, it's a consumer or several consumers'
choice that seek to dramatically reduce demand for said product. This is done free from any government oversight or control and made purely from the consumer side of the equation.

It is a pure free market decision that drive this, it doesn't matter that you don't agree with their boycott. This is the same as my mother-in-law turning off her netflix because they signed the Obamas and telling her whole family to do the same. These calls for boycotts are stupid, but it doesn't change the fact that they all boil down to a call for consumers to unleash the power of their wallet.

Edit to include this: Free speech isn't freedom from consequence. Cancel culture is stupid, but the world should continue to hold people accountable for the stupid things they say/post in public.

[Xville]

How is the free market only driven by the producers? It would seem to me that the free market is driven by both producers and consumers. Prices and products are driven by supply and demand not just supply. A boycott of a product is something kicked off by consumers to dramatically reduce demand for a product and hurt the applicable business. Regardless of the reason, it's a consumer or several consumers'
choice that seek to dramatically reduce demand for said product. This is done free from any government oversight or control and made purely from the consumer side of the equation.

It is a pure free market decision that drive this, it doesn't matter that you don't agree with their boycott. This is the same as my mother-in-law turning off her netflix because they signed the Obamas and telling her whole family to do the same. These calls for boycotts are stupid, but it doesn't change the fact that they all boil down to a call for consumers to unleash the power of their wallet.

Edit to include this: Free speech isn't freedom from consequence. Cancel culture is stupid, but the world should continue to hold people accountable for the stupid things they say/post in public.

I agree with your last two sentences. The problem I have is when cancel culture happens just because someone has beliefs different from yours. There is a difference between say cancelling Harvey Weinstein and I dunno Santa Claus or something equally ridiculous like moving the baseball all star game because of some legislation that you disagreed with and didn’t understand.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I agree with your last two sentences. The problem I have is when cancel culture happens just because someone has beliefs different from yours. There is a difference between say cancelling Harvey Weinstein and I dunno Santa Claus or something equally ridiculous like moving the baseball all star game because of some legislation that you disagreed with and didn’t understand.

The free market only cares that a decision was made not the particulars of the decision. You care about it. You can hate on cancel culture all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact the people who choose not to consume a product or buy from a company are exercising their rights in the free market. Social media allows that choice to travel faster than ever before in history. You are free to disagree and spout it at the top of your lungs or with ferocious strokes of your keyboard. The consequences will always remain.