Politics Thread

[noteggs]

LOL. Your tag line should be, "Anyone who disagrees with me is either a racist, xenophobe, misogynist, or homophobe, or a combination of all four." In fact, that should be your party's tag line along with, "We don't tolerate anyone who thinks differently from us."

That was just a moniker given to conservatives every two years around election time. Guess it’s 365 now.

[paulxu]

You're dead on. I have grown weary of tolerating racism, bigotry, etc.
Guess I'm getting old and crotchety.

[paulxu]

I follow The Bulwark on Twitter for some reason. It sounded interesting when I signed up. It's TUR-RI-BLE. Those guys have worse Trump Derangement Syndrome than Gary Griffin's sister.

Hah! I don't even know what that is, but you need a break there in Wichita. Try following Greg Marshall's antics.

[GoMuskies]

I just voted. I wrote in Gregg Marshall!

Just kidding. You know my allegiance is to Lynn Marshall!

[GoMuskies]

By the way, here are the folks who make up the Bulwark, including the aforementioned Billy Kristol.

https://thebulwark.com/about-us/

[XU 87]

You're dead on. I have grown weary of tolerating racism, bigotry, etc.
Guess I'm getting old and crotchety.

No, you're just intolerant and like other leftists, don't make arguments using facts. You instead resort to arguing your narrative that is grounded in fiction and fantasy.

I will add- calling those who disagree with you "bigots" and "xenophobes" and "homophobes" does not demonstrate that you are against those things. It just demonstrates you call people names with the hope that these people will then shut up.

[boozehound]

No, you're just intolerant and like other leftists, don't make arguments using facts. You instead resort to arguing your narrative that is grounded in fiction and fantasy.

I would think you would have to at least recognize the irony in your statement that 'leftists' resort to arguing a narrative grounded in fiction and fantasy considering the fact that today the White House claimed to have 'ended COVID-19'. The entire conservative narrative right now seems to be largely grounded in fantasy.

[XU 87]

I would think you would have to at least recognize the irony in your statement that 'leftists' resort to arguing a narrative grounded in fiction and fantasy considering the fact that today the White House claimed to have 'ended COVID-19'. The entire conservative narrative right now seems to be largely grounded in fantasy.

Your post is a good example of liberal narrative fantasy. We all know the White House press release was wrong. No one is claiming Covid is over, not even the WH, who now says the release was "poorly worded". It was a stupid sloppily written press release, but now you want to argue, "SEE, SEE!! Conservatives think Covid has ended!!!"

[Smails]

That these types of people recognize their party has been taken over by the Trump racism, xenophobia, homophobia and misogyny...and they are trying to reach real conservatives for a re-making of their party, actually gives me some hope for the future of the country.

My god do you actually believe that? You mean the Trump racism that passed The First Step Act or the Trump misogyny that just had a female confirmed to SCOTUS? Or the Trump homophobia that shows 40-45% of gay men are planning on voting for him(recent poll by Hornet)? How about the Trump xenophobia that has Trump trailing Biden by 7% when it come to the latino male vote?

I get that you don't like DJT (I'm not a fan either) but the narrative that the party has been co-opted by these Trump 'phobias' is patently false and incredibly lazy.

[xubrew]

I just voted. I wrote in Gregg Marshall!

Just kidding. You know my allegiance is to Lynn Marshall!

Okay, there is someone out there that's far less fit for office than Trump.

Your post is a good example of liberal narrative fantasy. We all know the White House press release was wrong. No one is claiming Covid is over, not even the WH, who now says the release was "poorly worded". It was a stupid sloppily written press release, but now you want to argue, "SEE, SEE!! Conservatives think Covid has ended!!!"

Not exactly. It's that so many people are willing to follow a guy that routinely makes statements that are crazy, bizarre, and totally false. Not to mention divisive.

My god do you actually believe that? You mean the Trump racism that passed The First Step Act or the Trump misogyny that just had a female confirmed to SCOTUS? Or the Trump homophobia that shows 40-45% of gay men are planning on voting for him(recent poll by Hornet)? How about the Trump xenophobia that has Trump trailing Biden by 7% when it come to the latino male vote?

I get that you don't like DJT (I'm not a fan either) but the narrative that the party has been co-opted by these Trump 'phobias' is patently false and incredibly lazy.

You have a point. Regardless of what side people are on, the Left or the Right, they're probably only getting a very jaded and slanted view of the other side. Over and over and over again. The over-saturation, along with the idea that it's easy for people to believe the things that they want to believe has people on the left thinking everyone who supports Trump is a Nazi, and people on the right thinking that everyone who supports Biden also supports rioting, hates America, and those that are really far out there believing that it's all part of a conspiracy involving pedophiles that are led by Hillary Clinton.

The reality is...that's not the reality. Yet, people continue to soak up the poison.

I think Trump is grossly unqualified and totally full of shit even by politician standards. I also believe that as the senate majority leader Mitch McConnell acted in a way that was totally unprecedented in American history in order to push his own agenda. I'm not just talking about the Supreme Court, but the over 100 judicial nominations to the district courts and the court of appeals that were made by Obama and that were never called to a vote, and the over 450 pieces of legislation that passed through the House but were never called for a vote. No one has done that, ever. And I think that if the Dems go for the sweep (which they have a good chance of doing) that unprecedented act will receive an unprecedented response.

But, while xenophobes, racists, and homophobes will probably vote Republican, I also don't think that's representative of most Republicans. The lunatics who actually do want to overthrow the country (or some variation of that) will likely vote Democrat, but that's not representative most Democrats.

In short, and I say this from someone who is kind of in the middle here, both sides are actually kinda fucked up and we'd all be better off if they'd actually do more to shout down the lunatic fringe that exists in both their camps.