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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun View Post
    We have friends that have decided not to send their kids this year and pay one of the moms (a teacher) to teach the kids in these families, creating a small bubble. This screams elitist as I am aware this is not an option for many but perhaps other pockets like this will appear which does thin out the classrooms some creating more space. I do not envy the schools in generating plans, and I still stand by paid time off for all working Americans/parents when their kids get sick. Less chance if infecting grandma, teachers, staff, other kids.
    I like your idea on paid leave as long as it comes from the company side vs feds or state. As for being elitism? maybe, but who really cares when you’re trying to do what’s best for your family especially in this case.

    All I know from an academic perspective, we have to do something different then just online. The standards were much lower for the vast majority of kids. Heck, my senior in HS had her finals canceled and her AP exams cut in half. This is on top of the social aspect which is equally important IMO and as Booze pointed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun View Post
    I agree with a lot of what this article has to say. There are pockets of head scratchers in various parts of the world. As Go says it depends on what risks we are willing to take. My personal opinion is to have kids go back full time in areas that are not hot spots. I think Florida is nuts for considering it right now. The urban communities will not have the resources to safely open, yet if they don’t it seems to dig the community in a bigger hole, not to mention there is still a problem with many many homes not having an internet connection (also applies to rural communities to a lesser extent).

    We have friends that have decided not to send their kids this year and pay one of the moms (a teacher) to teach the kids in these families, creating a small bubble. This screams elitist as I am aware this is not an option for many but perhaps other pockets like this will appear which does thin out the classrooms some creating more space. I do not envy the schools in generating plans, and I still stand by paid time off for all working Americans/parents when their kids get sick. Less chance if infecting grandma, teachers, staff, other kids.
    We haven't heard for sure, but we've been getting some hints that our school district is going to be full-time online. We've talked about staying in the school, but hiring a full-time tutor to help with lesson plans. My wife and I both have pretty intense jobs, so tacking on third grade teacher for a full year isn't going to work for either of us.

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    Fake news alert! CBS Evening news just reported "85 babies under one with COVID one Texas county, one dead". LIES.

    Do any of you actually believe anything you hear from the MSM anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton View Post
    Fake news alert! CBS Evening news just reported "85 babies under one with COVID one Texas county, one dead". LIES.

    Do any of you actually believe anything you hear from the MSM anymore?
    I feel as though local news, for the most part, is objective so that is about all I watch. Cable news outside of CNBC is complete drivel..fox, cbs, NBC, MSNBC, cnn, espn..take your pick it's all junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun View Post
    I agree with a lot of what this article has to say. There are pockets of head scratchers in various parts of the world. As Go says it depends on what risks we are willing to take. My personal opinion is to have kids go back full time in areas that are not hot spots. I think Florida is nuts for considering it right now. The urban communities will not have the resources to safely open, yet if they don’t it seems to dig the community in a bigger hole, not to mention there is still a problem with many many homes not having an internet connection (also applies to rural communities to a lesser extent).

    We have friends that have decided not to send their kids this year and pay one of the moms (a teacher) to teach the kids in these families, creating a small bubble. This screams elitist as I am aware this is not an option for many but perhaps other pockets like this will appear which does thin out the classrooms some creating more space. I do not envy the schools in generating plans, and I still stand by paid time off for all working Americans/parents when their kids get sick. Less chance if infecting grandma, teachers, staff, other kids.
    The FFCRA did provide sick leave for employees who either have COVID19 or caring for kids with COVID19 at work places under 500 employees. The employer pays and gets a refundable tax credit for the expense.

    As to NotEggs, if it has to come from the company side they simply won't do it. If this is for the greater good of society, then the government is going to need to fund it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STL_XUfan View Post
    The FFCRA did provide sick leave for employees who either have COVID19 or caring for kids with COVID19 at work places under 500 employees. The employer pays and gets a refundable tax credit for the expense.

    As to NotEggs, if it has to come from the company side they simply won't do it. If this is for the greater good of society, then the government is going to need to fund it.
    And I'd rather they focus stimulus funding on things like that rather than sending most of the country a check for $1200 whether they need it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    Not a lot of people can say that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STL_XUfan View Post
    The FFCRA did provide sick leave for employees who either have COVID19 or caring for kids with COVID19 at work places under 500 employees. The employer pays and gets a refundable tax credit for the expense.

    As to NotEggs, if it has to come from the company side they simply won't do it. If this is for the greater good of society, then the government is going to need to fund it.
    Yes which is great for many...key word I used is “all working Americans.” For instance, Walmart does not offer parents paid time off unless they have vacation hours to burn. FFCRA is a good start but still falls short of a universal plan that so many other successful nations have.

    Quote Originally Posted by boozehound View Post
    And I'd rather they focus stimulus funding on things like that rather than sending most of the country a check for $1200 whether they need it or not.
    Yes, we are way past the point of penny pinching federal spending (well before COVID, too) for us to say policies like this would be too costly. Cut our losses and do it right from here on out. If we have to close schools again it’s going to be way worse the second time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterofreality View Post
    Posted without comment...

    Except - Barely Used

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/n...ta-queens.html
    Is this an advertisement to get rid of private health and switch to universal health? Sure seems like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    Honestly, I don't think there's a way to do in person school "safely" right now. You either decide kids going to school is important enough to take the risks that come with it, or you decide it is not. I don't think there's much of a middle ground. You can have masks and handwashing and some distancing, but at the end of the day it's mostly window dressing. We're willing to take the risk or we're not.
    I think "safe" is a relative term.

    A year ago, you were still subjecting kids to some level of risk, whether it's a school bus crash, the flu, or a school shooting. So you're absolutely right that there is absolutely no way of guaranteeing that your child won't die of COVID if they return to school this fall. But you couldn't make that guarantee in years past either.

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