Politics Thread

[Masterofreality]

Paul -

Why are libs sooooooo outraged over Roger Stone's commuted sentence? Being serious here. You would have thought Trump freed Jeffrey Epstein the way people are losing their minds over it. Please educate me.

Also, I read that Barack Hussein Obama commuted 1,715 people in his 8 years in office...more than any President in history. All with little or no public outrage.

To quote my guy XU87..."there ain't no standard like a double standard."

Plus the basis for Stone even being charged and investigated has been totally discredited. It never should have happened at all, but for corrupt and incredibly biased agents like Strozk.

[paulxu]

Paul -

Why are libs sooooooo outraged over Roger Stone's commuted sentence? Being serious here. You would have thought Trump freed Jeffrey Epstein the way people are losing their minds over it. Please educate me.

Also, I read that Barack Hussein Obama commuted 1,715 people in his 8 years in office...more than any President in history. All with little or no public outrage.

To quote my guy XU87..."there ain't no standard like a double standard."

I suspect it's because his crimes, for which his sentence has been commuted, were lying to protect the guy who commuted his sentence.

Don't recall that anyone Obama commuted a sentence for, were convicted of crimes like lying to congress to protect Obama.
I stand to be corrected on this if wrong.
My sense is that many, if not all, had served a lot of years of their sentences. They were often life sentences for drug possession, and had served many years already.
I wonder if he ever commuted someone before they even went to prison?

[Juice]

I suspect it's because his crimes, for which his sentence has been commuted, were lying to protect the guy who commuted his sentence.

Don't recall that anyone Obama commuted a sentence for, were convicted of crimes like lying to congress to protect Obama.
I stand to be corrected on this if wrong.
My sense is that many, if not all, had served a lot of years of their sentences. They were often life sentences for drug possession, and had served many years already.
I wonder if he ever commuted someone before they even went to prison?

Not Obama but Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich is worse (IMO). Largest tax evasion case ever at that time and was trading with Iran during an embargo and then he fled the country. Rich was a huge contributor to the Democratic Party.

[Masterofreality]

I suspect it's because his crimes, for which his sentence has been commuted, were lying to protect the guy who commuted his sentence.

Don't recall that anyone Obama commuted a sentence for, were convicted of crimes like lying to congress to protect Obama.
I stand to be corrected on this if wrong.
My sense is that many, if not all, had served a lot of years of their sentences. They were often life sentences for drug possession, and had served many years already.
I wonder if he ever commuted someone before they even went to prison?

Welp, for starters there was "Chelsea Manning" who just blatantly leaked 750,000 classified and "sensitive" military documents to Wikileaks putting numerous US operatives and interests in danger and violated the Espionage Act. But "she" was a transgender, so one of the 'preferred" class. "She" served 7 years.
Oh, and Oscar Lopez Rivera who carried out more than 130 bomb attacks with his clandestine paramilitary organization FALN and was convicted of Seditious Activity, sentenced to 55 years THEN tried to escape and was sentenced to another 15 years. He served 36 years.

Yah. They "may" have been a bit more dangerous and ridiculous to commute.

[X-man]

Welp, for starters there was "Chelsea Manning" who just blatantly leaked 750,000 classified and "sensitive" military documents to Wikileaks putting numerous US operatives and interests in danger and violated the Espionage Act. But "she" was a transgender, so one of the 'preferred" class. "She" served 7 years.
Oh, and Oscar Lopez Rivera who carried out more than 130 bomb attacks with his clandestine paramilitary organization FALN and was convicted of Seditious Activity, sentenced to 55 years THEN tried to escape and was sentenced to another 15 years. He served 36 years.

Yah. They "may" have been a bit more dangerous and ridiculous to commute.

I missed the "lying to Congress to protect Obama" part of your post.

[noteggs]

I suspect it's because his crimes, for which his sentence has been commuted, were lying to protect the guy who commuted his sentence.

Don't recall that anyone Obama commuted a sentence for, were convicted of crimes like lying to congress to protect Obama.

I’m right behind you if that’s what Stone did. I know that’s what Democrats, MSM and even Romney say and want people to believe. However, Stone was actually charged for lying to Congress about discussing Wikileaks (blaming Credico and protecting Corsi) not to protect Trump.

[X-man]

I’m right behind you if that’s what Stone did. I know that’s what Democrats, MSM and even Romney say and want people to believe. However, Stone was actually charged for lying to Congress about discussing Wikileaks (blaming Credico and protecting Corsi) not to protect Trump.

Actually, Stone said the opposite. See: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...p-roger-stone/.

[noteggs]

Actually, Stone said the opposite. See: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...p-roger-stone/.

He said he didn’t flip in which the prosecutors tried to get him to do. He did not say I lied for him. Again, he was not charged with lying to Congress to protect Trump.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...iac-democrats/

[Juice]

This is a from a tweet from a biased source so correct me if I'm wrong. But this is insane (if true):

Commutations by President:

Bill Clinton—61 in 8 years
George W. Bush—11 in 8 years
Donald Trump—11 in 4 years

Barack Obama?

1,715 in 8 years.

[JEHARDI]

Barr has been vocal about Trump’s involvement in the Stone case. Obama was not right and neither is Trump here, both deserve to be called out:To me, Trump was clearly the lesser of two evils but it amazes me that people justify his behavior just because the alternative was worse.
We now enter another election with 2 horrible candidates and will have another 4 miserable years with someone who is not qualified to lead the country. We are getting what we deserve for not demanding better of our elected leaders and allowing self serving incompetent politicians to run the country,