Crosstown Shootout Game Thread (January 26, 2017)

[X Factor]

That was the worst performance by Xavier bigs I have ever witnessed. Gaston and O'Mara got abused so bad I can't even believe it. Tyrique couldn't finish either, but at least he banged and got the FT line, and then made his FT's.

Tre's performance was one for the ages, but now it won't go down in Xavier history like it should have.

We need a SERIOUS upgrade in big men.

Sumner still isn't able to take over a game. He's still way too easy to slow down on offense or completely shut down.

Quentin was really good tonight. 6 assists and 1 turnover. He ran the offense very good tonight. I thought the offense ran the best with him at the point.

At this point, I would start Quentin, Sumner, JP, Trevon, and either Gates or Tyrique.

[Xville]

Just an idea, but any chance this has something to do with a humongous step up in conference competition? I mean, you're trolling with that. Also X did get out of the first round last season, but I'm hoping you meant to say weekend.

I'm curious, is there anything other than going to a Final Four that would indicate to you that Mack is moving the program forward? I don't think Mack is the best coach in America by any stretch, I just think holding anyone at Xavier (or 99% of other schools) to that standard is moronic and unrealistic.

Again, I'm legitimately curious in your answer to that question.

Yeah there is a step up in competition, but with that comes a step up in the kind of talent you can get. All things being equal, it is coaching ability that makes the difference. Doesnt matter if you are in the mcc or the big east or the A10 where after millers recruits were gone, he also wasnt great.

As far as steps forward...a big east championship or a couple, an elite eight would be nice. Id also like to see some progress in in game coaching from Mack and quite frankly i have not seen much in the eight seasons he has been here.

[LadyMuskie]

I mean, we could have Troy Caupain representing our team and being excited just because he FINALLY won one game versus a team in 4 years. Perspective, people. Perspective.

[paulxu]

Worst wining percentage of a xavier cosch since Staak

You realize we went from the 7th best conference to the 3rd best a couple years ago?

[AviatorX]

Yeah there is a step up in competition, but with that comes a step up in the kind of talent you can get. All things being equal, it is coaching ability that makes the difference. Doesnt matter if you are in the mcc or the big east or the A10 where after millers recruits were gone, he also wasnt great.

As far as steps forward...a big east championship or a couple, an elite eight would be nice. Id also like to see some progress in in game coaching from Mack and quite frankly i have not seen much in the eight seasons he has been here.

Fair enough. I'm not trying to attack you, we are all frustrated after losses. Especially to UC.

I think your list of steps forward there is on point. I'm hopeful that as the rosters somewhat reset after this season (at least Hart and Jenkins will finally be gone, and obviously X seems to be likely to undergo some significant turnover), X is starting to build toward the same talent level as Nova, at least more than anyone else in the conference I think.

[D-West & PO-Z]

That was the worst performance by Xavier bigs I have ever witnessed. Gaston and O'Mara got abused so bad I can't even believe it. Tyrique couldn't finish either, but at least he banged and got the FT line, and then made his FT's.

Tre's performance was one for the ages, but now it won't go down in Xavier history like it should have.

We need a SERIOUS upgrade in big men.

Sumner still isn't able to take over a game. He's still way too easy to slow down on offense or completely shut down.

Quentin was really good tonight. 6 assists and 1 turnover. He ran the offense very good tonight. I thought the offense ran the best with him at the point.

At this point, I would start Quentin, Sumner, JP, Trevon, and either Gates or Tyrique.

Q's best game by far tonight. I think that is the most promising thing to take from this game.

Jones showed some flashes but he is a fouling machine. Cant play him more if he cant stay on the court due to foul trouble.

[KabeX]

Q was really good. Remember this game a year from now when Ed and Tre are gone. And please, can we all just back away from the cliff? Numbers, stats, Mack sucks. We don't have shit inside (well that might be somewhat accurate). It's one freakin game. A game that UC was hungrier for. Concern? Absolutely. Is the sky falling? C'Mon Man. Let it play out and enjoy the ride. Now, all that said - I'm still pissed.

[scoscox]

the fact that mack wasn't consistently laying into them for getting out toughed in every aspect of the game... someone needed to chew them out

[mirabilelectu]

Q was really good. Remember this game a year from now when Ed and Tre are gone. And please, can we all just back away from the cliff? Numbers, stats, Mack sucks. We don't have shit inside (well that might be somewhat accurate). It's one freakin game. A game that UC was hungrier for. Concern? Absolutely. Is the sky falling? C'Mon Man. Let it play out and enjoy the ride. Now, all that said - I'm still pissed.

The program is in a great place, but I think most people are taking about this season. It hasn't been one game, this is the exact script in all of our losses.

[Harryfe]

Tyrique played ok but he is a fouling machine. He commits 1 foul every 4 minutes of play. Hard to start him and play many minutes. Our bigs as a group are not good. Sean is to me the biggest disappointment on the team. Still waiting for Gates to recover from injury�� Obviously great game by Tre that Mick was able to make some adjustments for