Politics Thread

[Caf]

You guys can understand why some people don't like the electoral college. Trump has criticized it during the campaign. It leads to voter apathy and counts some individual votes more than others. Also MOR, not sure if you're new to electoral maps but they are always a majority red.

[paulxu]

You need to look at a cartogram map.

Square miles don't vote. People vote.

[bleedXblue]

I have to say that I was embarrassed before the election with the quality of both candidates and the lousy campaigns they both ran. I'm now equally embarrassed for the liberal whiners who suck at losing and are only interested in their own personal agendas. I want happy when Obama won two consecutive elections, but I didn't whine and pout and I surely didn't protest in the streets that he wasn't my President. This is America folks. We've elected a new leader as a people. Get the fu%# over it !

[OH.X.MI]

Though I don't think it will go anywhere, this new (revived from 2000) fad of electoral college bashing is worrisome to me. The electoral college serves a very important purpose. It was created by the framers for a reason. Though it's often forgotten in an era instant national (international) communication, our country is based on principals of Federalism. The states, and the people who live there, are equal. The electoral college ensures that, to some degree, each state has a voice. Without it, why would politicians care about the states where many of us live in? Pure populous vote would lead candidates to only care and campaign on the coasts and perhaps Chicago. Are the political ideals of people in New York City inherently more right than those in Louisville, Kentucky? The New Yorkers might think so, but that's not what federalism, or equity, dictates.

[Caf]

Though I don't think it will go anywhere, this new (revived from 2000) fad of electoral college bashing is worrisome to me. The electoral college serves a very important purpose. It was created by the framers for a reason. Though it's often forgotten in an era instant national (international) communication, our country is based on principals of Federalism. The states, and the people who live there, are equal. The electoral college ensures that, to some degree, each state has a voice. Without it, why would politicians care about the states where many of us live in? Pure populous vote would lead candidates to only care and campaign on the coasts and perhaps Chicago. Are the political ideals of people in New York City inherently more right than those in Louisville, Kentucky? The New Yorkers might think so, but that's not what federalism, or equity, dictates.

It's never going anywhere.

I'm honestly curious about what the effect would be. I'd guess it would be understated, as the electoral college result is usually very close to the popular vote. If anything, I think there are massive amounts of people in both parties who don't vote because of it, and they'd lead to significant change.

Yes California and NY are enormous and enormously liberal, but they also have large Republican populations. Californians cast the 3rd most Republican votes, and NY 6th. I'd guess those numbers would be bigger without the Electoral College.

[X Factor]

Just more innocent protests by the left.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...rump-protests/

[GoMuskies]

You guys can understand why some people don't like the electoral college.

Absolutely, but both sides knew the rules of the game going in and played to win by those rules. It would be like Ohio State beating Michigan in football but Michigan fans claiming they REALLY won because they had more total yards. Not how it works.

[American X]

I am more bothered by ridiculous places like Delaware and Vermont getting two Senators each.

[Caf]

Absolutely, but both sides knew the rules of the game going in and played to win by those rules. It would be like Ohio State beating Michigan in football but Michigan fans claiming they REALLY won because they had more total yards. Not how it works.

Fair enough, but you gotta admit that a significant motive of this protesting comes from Trump's taste in divisive rhetoric. I don't remember any protests in 2000, and I saw more signs condemning Trump than the electoral college.

As long as this is the system (forever), people are going to be pissed when the popular vote doesn't match the result. It would be nice if people could just move on, but it's not gonna happen when the new President has already scared and pissed off millions of people.

[Xville]

I'm guessing that most of these protests...at least the ones that are turning violent, are being led by the professional protestors that we have all seen in Dallas, Ferguson, Baltimore etc etc. These people are despicable human filth.