Next years captains are

[bleedXblue]

Davis is going to play where next year ? He's a point guard exclusively. He's very small with average quickness and not much of a shot We have a plethora of talent coming in. If he gets 10 mpg I would be surprised.

[PMI]

Davis is going to play where next year ? He's a point guard exclusively. He's very small with average quickness and not much of a shot We have a plethora of talent coming in. If he gets 10 mpg I would be surprised.

Yes, point guard. And he does have a good shot. 10 minutes a game? You really don't know what you're talking about here. At all. But I'd love to wager with you on it.

[bleedXblue]

This line really cracks me up, because you can replace Dee Davis with so many other former Xavier stars it's not even funny. Dee has never had even the slightest hint of any issues, lack of work ethic, or lack of desire to get better. He has plenty to work on, no doubt. But he's also an upperclassman who improved a lot from year one to year two. Last year, he turned the ball over too much, was too vulnerable trying to get to the hole, and had to play too many minutes. But he also shot the ball well, defended extremely well, and showed that he is a very good ball handler. He's a tough little guard who will be better this year than he was last year. He's not going to be buried in the rotation. He may well play fewer minutes, but anyone who thinks he's going to be a Brian Walsh is out of their minds.

He needs to develop the Drew Lavender teardrop. It was a thing of beauty and was the best weapon to offset his lack of size. Dee got blocked way too often last year because he was too predictable taking the ball to the rack. An effective little teardrop shot could do wonders for his game. As it stands right now, he is our best proven on ball defender in the backcourt. That alone will be enough for him to get many minutes, and most likely be a starter. If Myles Davis, Brandon Randolph or someone else proves to be too talented not to start, great. That's awesome news for Xavier. But Dee will get his minutes, and will be better than he was last year. There are honestly a couple of guys who I think the jury is still out on from a complete commitment standpoint, and Dee is most certainly not one of them.

So you got Davis starting at SG ? It's going to be a hell of a long year if that's the case.

[GoMuskies]

I'm trying to come up with a scenario where Dee would NOT play at least 10 minutes per game. Drawing a blank.

[bleedXblue]

Yes, point guard. And he does have a good shot. 10 minutes a game? You really don't know what you're talking about here. At all. But I'd love to wager with you on it.

Davis is simply not that talented. I'm not sure what you're basing your opinions on ? I've never, ever heard anyone say he's a good shooter? Look at his stats, they all point towards an average shooter. Whatever. If Randolph or Myles don't come in and contribute right away, we'll struggle early in a big way. No doubt Dee will get some time early, but by the end of the year I expect his minutes to drop off as more talented guys emerge.

[PMI]

So you got Davis starting at SG ? It's going to be a hell of a long year if that's the case.

I'm not sure where the hell you drew that conclusion, but no, I don't think he's a starting SG.

Davis is simply not that talented. I'm not sure what you're basing your opinions on ? I've never, ever heard anyone say he's a good shooter? Look at his stats, they all point towards an average shooter. Whatever. If Randolph or Myles don't come in and contribute right away, we'll struggle early in a big way. No doubt Dee will get some time early, but by the end of the year I expect his minutes to drop off as more talented guys emerge.

Again, you can sit there and make the incorrect claim that he's not talented or that he doesn't belong at Xavier or whatever it is you are trying to say. I'm basing my opinions off a hell of a lot more logic than you are. I said he has a good shot. His stroke was pretty good last year and I expect it to get better. No, 37% from three is not a sniper, but it is more than fine for a point guard who will not be called upon to try to create too many shots for himself. Do you think Dee is going to regress? Do you not remember other players with clear deficiencies coming back better? I mean how short-sighted are you? You have no idea what kind of player Dee Davis is going to be this year.

I think I gave a fair opinion of him that is based off actual substance, citing his strengths and weaknesses. You have simply not done that. You just want to believe that he will always be below what you expected of him and that his freshmen teammates will take all but 10 of his minutes. You are living in a complete fantasy land if you think two freshmen are going to essentially send our best defensive guard to the end of the bench. Your scenario is simply an extremely unlikely one.

[XUFan09]

Basically what PMI said. I bet Dee is playing 25+ minutes per game this next season. I also think his turnover rate will be down from a rough 28.0%, maybe even down to under 20%. His 2-point percentage will also improve from 42.2% and will instead be closer to 50%. His minutes will be down because he will not need to be on the court as much next season (neither will Semaj), but his usage rate when on the court will stay near the same, give or take a couple percentage points from 19.9% (right at the border of "role player" and "significant contributor" per Kenpom).

These are not crazy improvements. We're talking about a young guy (straight out of high school, unlike fellow rising junior Justin Martin) who didn't see much playing time as a freshman behind a backcourt of an All-American and an All-A10 player, who was then thrust into a role bigger than he was ready to handle as a sophomore. This next season will be one where he now has serious experience and he won't be relied upon as much, overall leading to more effective play.

[bleedXblue]

OK, so Semaj and Dee on the floor at the same time gives us two guys who are true PG's who aren't known for their 3 pt shooting. I simply just see Mack trying to get more minutes out of guys who can play the SG position, extend defenses and open things up a bit for us offensively. 10 minutes a game is likely too low, especially early in the year. I would not be surprised to see him around that level later in the year as some of the guys progress and get accustomed to the system. I guess we'll wait and see how it pans out. Either way, it's finally nice to have some options and have guys pushing each other for PT.

[XUFan09]

1. A 37% 3pt shooter will extend defenses and open up the floor. Not on the level of Redford, but still. Dee's man knew it was a mistake to leave him open on the perimeter this past year.

2. Mack has shown in the past he likes two point guards on the floor at once. It's actually something he sells to recruits.

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[Madfan]

Dee has been at an invite only Nike training camp at St. Vincent's this week. I guess they think he might do ok next year. Don't know how to link it but he instagramed a picture of him and Wayne Blackshear yesterday. His instagram is deedavisx in case you want to see/follow.