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[ArizonaXUGrad]

After watching Dee for 2 years, I can say without any hesitation that he's not the high level PG that we need to win in the BE.

He'll be nice to have his senior year if Semaj goes pro after next year (which I say is about a 95% chance he will).

He can help bridge the gap and spell Randolph at times. Sumner will also be in the fold, but as a frosh I dont see him getting many minutes....they may even redshirt him.

This I agree with, however, if you are Dee Davis do you want to be a bridge or do you want to start. If he is looking more for a better shot it might be elsewhere. I am just speculating. Davis is smaller than each guard we have coming in. From watching him play, he does not have that elite top level speed yet that you need from shorter PGs. Davis is also shorter than any of the other guards we have and will have on the roster and pretty light at 161#.

Take a look at other BE rosters and look at the guards they start. I found one in the 6'1 165# that had moderate success at around 8pts 3 assists per game. That rest of the shorter guards (not many) all weighed 20# more or the guards were flat out taller and heavier.

I am not writing him off. I am merely combining my own speculation with the rumors of one player transferring out of the program.

FYI on Randolph, Rivals is the only site that has him that low. The consensus of most other recruiting sites is that he is in the low 80s. With how sketchy each of these sites are you really need to get a cumulative average as opposed to just one.

So far, we haven't brought in any smaller guards. Myles Davis is the shortest at 6'1 and he is somewhat thicker at 205# although our site lists him at 6'2. Otherwise Randolph is listed at 6'2, Sumner is 6'3 and already 165# and should pack in a bit, and Remy Abell is 6'4.

[Muskie]

I remember Dee being ranked as high as #72 overall on rivals. He was not a neglected prospect.

I'm a bit leery of talk of Dee being passed over. Never underestimate a veteran point guard.

See Lionel Chalmers?

[ArizonaXUGrad]

See Lionel Chalmers?

Chalmers weighed 20# more and had above average speed for 180#.

[gladdenguy]

Let's hope Dee pulls a Raymond. On a good Xavier team (or the Big East team we strive to be) Dee would get maybe 10 minutes for defensive purposes.
And who cares about recruiting rankings. Just because Dee was a 4 star doesn't mean he is gonna turn it around and become a suitable guy to run a team whose goal is to win a Big East championship and advance beyond a sweet 16. Dee has a long way to go. Now he has competition. Lets see how many minutes he gets the next two years. If Myles and Randolph are good as advertised its gonna be tough.

[Titanxman04]

Let's hope Dee pulls a Raymond. On a good Xavier team (or the Big East team we strive to be) Dee would get maybe 10 minutes for defensive purposes.
And who cares about recruiting rankings. Just because Dee was a 4 star doesn't mean he is gonna turn it around and become a suitable guy to run a team whose goal is to win a Big East championship and advance beyond a sweet 16. Dee has a long way to go. Now he has competition. Lets see how many minutes he gets the next two years. If Myles and Randolph are good as advertised its gonna be tough.

Competition breeds excellence. Now that we have younger guys coming in with talent and ability (so we're told), I would like to believe that these competitive individuals will push each other to improve in every way imaginable. None of these guys want to be a senior that rides the bench. That's not the kind of people Mack seems to recruit. Thats my thought with Martin as well. Now that he has some young bucks coming in, maybe he'll push himself to succeed even more.

Time can only tell.

[PMI]

After watching Dee for 2 years, I can say without any hesitation that he's not the high level PG that we need to win in the BE.

He'll be nice to have his senior year if Semaj goes pro after next year (which I say is about a 95% chance he will).

He can help bridge the gap and spell Randolph at times. Sumner will also be in the fold, but as a frosh I dont see him getting many minutes....they may even redshirt him.

This line really cracks me up, because you can replace Dee Davis with so many other former Xavier stars it's not even funny. Dee has never had even the slightest hint of any issues, lack of work ethic, or lack of desire to get better. He has plenty to work on, no doubt. But he's also an upperclassman who improved a lot from year one to year two. Last year, he turned the ball over too much, was too vulnerable trying to get to the hole, and had to play too many minutes. But he also shot the ball well, defended extremely well, and showed that he is a very good ball handler. He's a tough little guard who will be better this year than he was last year. He's not going to be buried in the rotation. He may well play fewer minutes, but anyone who thinks he's going to be a Brian Walsh is out of their minds.

He needs to develop the Drew Lavender teardrop. It was a thing of beauty and was the best weapon to offset his lack of size. Dee got blocked way too often last year because he was too predictable taking the ball to the rack. An effective little teardrop shot could do wonders for his game. As it stands right now, he is our best proven on ball defender in the backcourt. That alone will be enough for him to get many minutes, and most likely be a starter. If Myles Davis, Brandon Randolph or someone else proves to be too talented not to start, great. That's awesome news for Xavier. But Dee will get his minutes, and will be better than he was last year. There are honestly a couple of guys who I think the jury is still out on from a complete commitment standpoint, and Dee is most certainly not one of them.

[mistabeecee41]

This line really cracks me up, because you can replace Dee Davis with so many other former Xavier stars it's not even funny. Dee has never had even the slightest hint of any issues, lack of work ethic, or lack of desire to get better. He has plenty to work on, no doubt. But he's also an upperclassman who improved a lot from year one to year two. Last year, he turned the ball over too much, was too vulnerable trying to get to the hole, and had to play too many minutes. But he also shot the ball well, defended extremely well, and showed that he is a very good ball handler. He's a tough little guard who will be better this year than he was last year. He's not going to be buried in the rotation. He may well play fewer minutes, but anyone who thinks he's going to be a Brian Walsh is out of their minds.

He needs to develop the Drew Lavender teardrop. It was a thing of beauty and was the best weapon to offset his lack of size. Dee got blocked way too often last year because he was too predictable taking the ball to the rack. An effective little teardrop shot could do wonders for his game. As it stands right now, he is our best proven on ball defender in the backcourt. That alone will be enough for him to get many minutes, and most likely be a starter. If Myles Davis, Brandon Randolph or someone else proves to be too talented not to start, great. That's awesome news for Xavier. But Dee will get his minutes, and will be better than he was last year. There are honestly a couple of guys who I think the jury is still out on from a complete commitment standpoint, and Dee is most certainly not one of them.

I was probably the #1 Dee hater of all, his inconsistency killed me. To be fair - I think he will benefit the most of the improvement of our backcourt this year. Some players have the kind of game where they can carry heavy loads (Semaj carried the team on his back last year). Dee isn't one of those - I think the inconsistency came from him being forced to try to do too much. Some big "ifs" here, but IF Randolph is as good at attacking the rim as advertised, IF Myles can shoot the lights out and IF Stainbrook is the low post threat we hope he is, Dee can return to the shadows as a PG instead of having to go out of his comfort level and create too much.

[SixFig]

When Dee busted out of the gate with that 24 point, 15 assist game vs. Fairleigh Dickinson, where were the these posts? The kid can play, and he was only a sophomore asked to carry a big load. He showed a ton of heart as well. I think Dee will be fine and so will Xavier.

[kyxu]

I was probably the #1 Dee hater of all, his inconsistency killed me. To be fair - I think he will benefit the most of the improvement of our backcourt this year. Some players have the kind of game where they can carry heavy loads (Semaj carried the team on his back last year). Dee isn't one of those - I think the inconsistency came from him being forced to try to do too much.

I think Travis Taylor carried much of the weight last year on an unimpressive team, so Semaj was hardly alone.

But going back to Dee, he was pretty critical in the VCU game to the point where our chances of an upset hit the shits at around the time he was concussed.

[1757Williams]

I think Dee's biggest problem is his lack of quickness. Someone his size needs to have elite quickness or athleticism, like a Shane Larkin or Aaron Brooks, etc. While Dee may have good quickness, it is not enough to overcome his other physical skills. We saw this year he had difficulty creating his own shot or shots for others, and that will continue to be a problem if he does not get significantly quicker.