Covid-19

[Juice]

I totally understand the view of someone like MOR who is monitoring the hospital data as an indicator that Ohio should start opening back up. Based on the data, I think a measured reopening makes perfect sense with reasonable precautions and restrictions depending on risk factors. I cannot even fathom the need of some to quickly declare this has been an overreaction before it is even over. You are playing Monday morning quarterback and it's not even Monday.

We are mere weeks from the President saying we would lose 100,000-200,000 Americans. This certainly seems unlikely at this juncture, but the ultimate outcome is not guaranteed now, and it definitely wasn't guaranteed when the first shutdowns were put in place. You cannot reasonably have expected leaders to roll the dice with the lives of their constituents based on armchair skepticism of "experts".

Politicization runs deep. People on this board in Republican controlled states under a Republican President just can't help themselves but to find a way to blame the media or liberals. What did "the media in NYC" report that was untrue? What was your local media saying weeks ago?

This isn't the media's fault, this isn't Trump's fault, this isn't your governors fault. No one is benefitting from this, they are all doing the best they can and making mistakes/triumphs along the way.

Yes I live in Ohio and voted for Dewine. I blame him for the situation in Ohio. I also blame NY and the MSM for thinking their city should dictate policy around the country. I blame them for looking down on other Americans in better situations than them. I blame them pushing the doom an gloom narrative because they're scared or because they want everyone else to fail too.

[Muskie in dayton]

Whatever is your problem? MSM?

My problem with the media is their sensationalism and failure to present the full truth about COVID-19 data and learnings are resulting in public misunderstanding, which in turn will lead to politicians to make bad decisions about how quickly we get people back to work. That is a major public disservice.

I was commenting on a sharp rise in deaths in Sweden. If I wanted to cherry pick a week, I would have picked a week at the beginning and said deaths have increased by a factor of 10.

That's not cherry picking, that's presenting an accurate representation of the data. That is what exponential growth looks like, and what we have seen or are seeing in literally every geography in the world.

I continue to hope the rise in deaths in Ohio does not follow the sharp rise in Sweden.

There is not a current sharp rise in death rate in Sweden. Now if you're saying you were referring to Sweden's death rate tripling week-to-week a month ago, than I agree this is a spike. But Ohio has already followed that spike. But if you're saying that deaths are rising sharply in Sweden from 2 weeks ago to this past week, that is just not the case.

[Juice]

Look at this graph comparing metro areas. New York isn't even close to the other hard hit cities.

https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status...207361/photo/2

[Caf]

Yes I live in Ohio and voted for Dewine. I blame him for the situation in Ohio. I also blame NY and the MSM for thinking their city should dictate policy around the country. I blame them for looking down on other Americans in better situations than them. I blame them pushing the doom an gloom narrative because they're scared or because they want everyone else to fail too.

Your blame for NY and MSM is for their “thinking” and “looking”?

[Juice]

Thinking = pushing stories, narratives, and anecdotal examples that are one offs and not truly representative of what is going on around the country.

Looking down = published stories and tweets about Florida's beaches or protests while their city has the majority of the cases and can't bother to close their subway.

[Caf]

Thinking = pushing stories, narratives, and anecdotal examples that are one offs and not truly representative of what is going on around the country.

Looking down = published stories and tweets about Florida's beaches or protests while their city has the majority of the cases and can't bother to close their subway.

Florida beaches still busy despite coronavirus pandemic, pleas for social distancing - Fox News

Coronavirus: Why are people worldwide flouting advice, restrictions? - Columbus Dispatch

The media doesn't run the subways or midwestern governments. The leaders who run the subway don't run the media.

Ron DeSantis is a Republican, he closed beaches right around when Trump said to avoid discretionary travel and gatherings of more than 10. Trump declared himself a war time President! The media made the most anti-media President ever do that?

[Juice]

Florida beaches still busy despite coronavirus pandemic, pleas for social distancing - Fox News

Coronavirus: Why are people worldwide flouting advice, restrictions? - Columbus Dispatch

The media doesn't run the subways or midwestern governments. The leaders who run the subway don't run the media.

Ron DeSantis is a Republican, he closed beaches right around when Trump said to avoid discretionary travel and gatherings of more than 10. Trump declared himself a war time President! The media made the most anti-media President ever do that?

I think he got scared into shutting things down. Now that the facts are out, he is opening things earlier. He is asking for sporting events to take place in his state. Beaches are opening again after a few weeks while Cuomo and Governor Blackface/KKK Hood extend their lock downs.

[XU '11]

I think he got scared into shutting things down. Now that the facts are out, he is opening things earlier. He is asking for sporting events to take place in his state. Beaches are opening again after a few weeks while Cuomo and Governor Blackface/KKK Hood extend their lock downs.

For the record, New York City absolutely needs to remain locked down.

[bobbiemcgee]

Yes I live in Ohio and voted for Dewine. I blame him for the situation in Ohio. I also blame NY and the MSM for thinking their city should dictate policy around the country. I blame them for looking down on other Americans in better situations than them. I blame them pushing the doom an gloom narrative because they're scared or because they want everyone else to fail too.

It's an airborne virus. You can walk into a hallway and get it from someone who walked thru 3 hours before. You can get it from someone just talking or breathing that may not even be sick. Stay home.

[xu82]

For the record, New York City absolutely needs to remain locked down.

My wife is working from home and most of her day she’s on various conference calls largely consisting of people in NYC. The NYC folks say the ambulance sirens they keep hearing are FAR beyond what is normal, but it’s the “new normal”. All day long. Those with second homes ran away weeks ago.

I don’t think I could ever live a place like NYC with all the vertical living and tight quarters and constantly sharing elevators. My wife’s boss told her during the interview that she wanted her team in NYC, and my wife thanked her for her time. An exception was made. There are very few cities that come close to cramming so many people in so little space. I know there are plenty of HUGE cities, but I’m not surprised that it would grow like wild fire in that setting.