Xavier Hoops Survival At Stake

[FishingXfan]

Well…


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[bjf123]

I don’t think so. They didn’t love the direction of CBB. And watching the product on the court the last 7 years hasn’t been great. So now Sean heads out again? I can see it being last straw

Bingo!


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[Section 200]

I supported this program for 26 years. How about you ?

Spend your time and money however you want. I’m more confused on all the criticism from folks who are already off the bus

[waggy]

The Big East can compete with the other 2nd tier conferences like the ACC, B12 & PAC/MWC.

[nickgyp]

Having attended Xavier athletic events since I was a kid starting around 1960, I have been privileged to attend basketball games at Cintas courtesy a generous brother. He has attended Xavier games even longer than me and, although not a Xavier grad (a Domer), he has purchased lower bowl season tickets since it opened. He lets me mooch along and I buy the refreshments. Over the recent years, I have found the experience less enjoyable but still a good time. I just sent the below text to him:

“The collapse of college athletics continues. Sean Miller packs up for Texas. So much for the love of a university that gives you a second chance. Money rules; commitment and integrity are lost. And meanwhile at Xavier: many fans would welcome Chris Mack back. That would be the same Chris Mack who took no. 1 NCAA seed Xavier into the tournament fully knowing he was gone to Louisville. This is an arms race X cannot win and shouldn’t play. I have no interest in supporting this charade. Jim, I would watch games on tv but as far as watching pyrotechnics and listening to thumping loud music, I am done. I don’t know about you. It has been a nice run from Junior Musketeer to Senior Musketeer even as I have only hitched a ride but what’s the point of loyalty to a school when loyalty to a school doesn’t matter? Enough of the fraud.”

Someone has suggested that X rejoin the Atlantic 10. That may not be necessary as how many of the Big East teams can run with the big boys? Atlantic 10 basketball, as inferior as it may be, hasn’t killed the Dayton fan base. Inferior Xavier basketball, discouraging as it may be, need not prove fatal. Fine tuning and time can still present an enjoyable environment for those of us who want to see the alma mater win despite the opponent (I am not suggesting Centre College return to the schedule.). I see no need to return to Chris Mack. His loyalty to Xavier has been proven once. Do not give him a chance to prove it again. Xavier has done pretty well as a stepping-stone coaching position. If it has to continue in that position, I suggest we live with it. X doesn’t have to win the arms race to compete.

[paulxu]

Perspective:

60 years ago I walked into Dana Gardens for the first (but surely not the last) time.
It was a warm and inviting place for a kid from Chattanooga, cut loose from the South and everything I knew.
Then back in the South, I would visit, and its familiarity would welcome me back to campus.
Decades later it closed, and I thought one part my ties to Xavier was lost forever.

Then BJ and his gang came, and rebuilt the dream. It's still the same when I go back. BJ is a great "coach" for Dana's, and the tradition continues.
We'll get through this basketball rough patch, we just have to have patience. Keep the faith.
I'll be back to Dana's in May, and I'll buy a round for any of you jackwads that show up.

[nickgyp]

Perspective:

60 years ago I walked into Dana Gardens for the first (but surely not the last) time.
It was a warm and inviting place for a kid from Chattanooga, cut loose from the South and everything I knew.
Then back in the South, I would visit, and its familiarity would welcome me back to campus.
Decades later it closed, and I thought one part my ties to Xavier was lost forever.

Then BJ and his gang came, and rebuilt the dream. It's still the same when I go back. BJ is a great "coach" for Dana's, and the tradition continues.
We'll get through this basketball rough patch, we just have to have patience. Keep the faith.
I'll be back to Dana's in May, and I'll buy a round for any of you jackwads that show up.

Just be sure that it is Dana Gardens…the Cincinnati Gardens is no longer there but the stench of stale beer still permeates the soil where it once stood and the crutch Joe Pangrazio used on U.C.’s Raleigh Wynn is rumored to be buried.

[A Fan]

Having attended Xavier athletic events since I was a kid starting around 1960, I have been privileged to attend basketball games at Cintas courtesy a generous brother. He has attended Xavier games even longer than me and, although not a Xavier grad (a Domer), he has purchased lower bowl season tickets since it opened. He lets me mooch along and I buy the refreshments. Over the recent years, I have found the experience less enjoyable but still a good time. I just sent the below text to him:

“The collapse of college athletics continues. Sean Miller packs up for Texas. So much for the love of a university that gives you a second chance. Money rules; commitment and integrity are lost. And meanwhile at Xavier: many fans would welcome Chris Mack back. That would be the same Chris Mack who took no. 1 NCAA seed Xavier into the tournament fully knowing he was gone to Louisville. This is an arms race X cannot win and shouldn’t play. I have no interest in supporting this charade. Jim, I would watch games on tv but as far as watching pyrotechnics and listening to thumping loud music, I am done. I don’t know about you. It has been a nice run from Junior Musketeer to Senior Musketeer even as I have only hitched a ride but what’s the point of loyalty to a school when loyalty to a school doesn’t matter? Enough of the fraud.”

Someone has suggested that X rejoin the Atlantic 10. That may not be necessary as how many of the Big East teams can run with the big boys? Atlantic 10 basketball, as inferior as it may be, hasn’t killed the Dayton fan base. Inferior Xavier basketball, discouraging as it may be, need not prove fatal. Fine tuning and time can still present an enjoyable environment for those of us who want to see the alma mater win despite the opponent (I am not suggesting Centre College return to the schedule.). I see no need to return to Chris Mack. His loyalty to Xavier has been proven once. Do not give him a chance to prove it again. Xavier has done pretty well as a stepping-stone coaching position. If it has to continue in that position, I suggest we live with it. X doesn’t have to win the arms race to compete.

Regardless of what any of us think, it will all sort itself out in time. The real glue holding the program together are the large NIL donors—financially savvy and successful people who have poured millions into supporting the program. I have to believe they feel more betrayed by Sean than anyone. After investing so much into his success, they probably never imagined he’d turn his back on them like this. It’s a tough situation, but ultimately, their support will guide the future direction of the program.

[muethibp]

Xavier can still have a decent program but the days of competing on a national scale are over, not just for Xavier but for most of the Big East, Dayton, UC, the A-10, mid-majors, etc. It's just not a structure a small-ish private school can compete in. And if maybe you catch lightning in a bottle for a year, it doesn't really matter, the players will leave, and you can't blame them really if they do. They have a small window of time to make what might be the most annual money they will ever make in their life. They need to go do it.

Macura and Blueitt will go down as really the last era of players we experienced how most of us want to consume this product: four-year players, watch them grow as humans and players, twists and turns, highs and lows with them, and then always a place in our hearts and memories.

If the current state of things works for you, I'm happy about that. But it doesn't for me. Which is why after attending nearly every Xavier basketball game in my post-college life for nearly 20 years, I've been in the building for three games post-Covid. I'm just not interested in what's on offer.

[boozehound]

Xavier can still have a decent program but the days of competing on a national scale are over, not just for Xavier but for most of the Big East, Dayton, UC, the A-10, mid-majors, etc. It's just not a structure a small-ish private school can compete in. And if maybe you catch lightning in a bottle for a year, it doesn't really matter, the players will leave, and you can't blame them really if they do. They have a small window of time to make what might be the most annual money they will ever make in their life. They need to go do it.

Macura and Blueitt will go down as really the last era of players we experienced how most of us want to consume this product: four-year players, watch them grow as humans and players, twists and turns, highs and lows with them, and then always a place in our hearts and memories.

If the current state of things works for you, I'm happy about that. But it doesn't for me. Which is why after attending nearly every Xavier basketball game in my post-college life for nearly 20 years, I've been in the building for three games post-Covid. I'm just not interested in what's on offer.

File this under 'sad but true'. My interest in College Sports as a whole has dropped off dramatically over the past few years. They are essentially just minor league professional sports that are affiliated with schools now. Every year half the kids transfer to different schools so you actually have less stability than you do in Pro sports where at least they sign multi-year contracts.

I make choices about how to spend my time and money, and college sports do not offer the value proposition to me that they used to. My golf game is getting a lot better though...