Sean Miller

[Xavier]

We have closer to 5 mil in NIL. I actually think it’s possible it goes up with a new coach. Donors will be asked annd some will comply to give more to get the new coach everything possible to be successful right away. And you can do a rebuild now and be successful immediately. I think X will be fine depending on the coach.

[Caveat]

You're going to be starting from scratch. You don't have 4-5 holes to fill, you have 12. So you either recruit 2-3 big dogs, and have no depth, or are unable to land any big dogs and your whole roster is pedestrian.

As with the NIL discussion in general, there are alot of people with their heads in the sand.

You also can't assume we have $4M+ to play with anymore. I'm sure much of that was the faith those rich guys had in Sean Miller as a coach that could get us there. Those donors aren't just going to hand over millions for a pipedream. Be real.

Yeah 2025-2026 is going to be an absolute dumpster fire.

You hopefully get a coach who can get his situation sorted and be ready to hit 2026-2027 running.

[bjf123]

Wish I shared your optimism. I’m thinking we’ll be battling DePaul and Butler to stay out of the Big East basement.


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[drudy23]

We have closer to 5 mil in NIL. I actually think it’s possible it goes up with a new coach. Donors will be asked annd some will comply to give more to get the new coach everything possible to be successful right away. And you can do a rebuild now and be successful immediately. I think X will be fine depending on the coach.

I don't think this is going to be the sentiment this time.

And you also can't assume that pledged NIL money is still going to be there at the $4M clip.

[sirthought]

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[nickgyp]

Miller leaving is a huge disappointment. Everyone knows the story of the prodigal son but in the original version, the prodigal son stays reformed and doesn’t sell out to the next highest bidder. The college athletic arms race has existed for years. The recent acceleration has only exacerbated a bad situation. It is one that Xavier cannot possible win. Quite honestly, the quasi-amateur nature of college athletics has always worked against schools like Xavier. Supporting losing efforts to keep up in a race that cannot be won is of no interest to me. Let the “haves” go there own way and make all the money can and be happy with championships bought. Let Xavier return to real rivalries in competitions that can be entertaining without breaking anyone’s bank.

Enough of the phony bullshit that big-time college athletics has become. The price isn’t worth it.

[drudy23]

Miller leaving is a huge disappointment. Everyone knows the story of the prodigal son but in the original version, the prodigal son stays reformed and doesn’t sell out to the next highest bidder. The college athletic arms race has existed for years. The recent acceleration has only exacerbated a bad situation. It is one that Xavier cannot possible win. Quite honestly, the quasi-amateur nature of college athletics has always worked against schools like Xavier. Supporting losing efforts to keep up in a race that cannot be won is of no interest to me. Let the “haves” go there own way and make all the money can and be happy with championships bought. Let Xavier return to real rivalries in competitions that can be entertaining without breaking anyone’s bank.

Enough of the phony bullshit that big-time college athletics has become. The price isn’t worth it.

I agree with you, but I have no interest in X if it means we're in the minor leagues.

[nickgyp]

I agree with you, but I have no interest in X if it means we're in the minor leagues.

Drudy:

Understand your point but years ago, I followed Xavier athletics when competition against Miami, Dayton and UC was a great experience. Minor league. Certainly, compared to OSU vs. Michigan or Notre Dame vs. USC, it wasn’t what you would call big-time. Al McGuire’s Marquette teams at Schmidt (throw in Dick Vitale’s Detroit Titans as well) were vastly entertaining. Dean Meminger and Spencer Haywood were special players. Not everyone had to be Lew Alcindor,

Was it lesser athleticism? Perhaps. But it was a good way to enjoy Xavier athletics.

[drudy23]

Drudy:

Understand your point but years ago, I followed Xavier athletics when competition against Miami, Dayton and UC was a great experience. Minor league. Certainly, compared to OSU vs. Michigan or Notre Dame vs. USC, it wasn’t what you would call big-time. Al McGuire’s Marquette teams at Schmidt (throw in Dick Vitale’s Detroit Titans as well) were vastly entertaining. Dean Meminger and Spencer Haywood were special players. Not everyone had to be Lew Alcindor,

Was it lesser athleticism? Perhaps. But it was a good way to enjoy Xavier athletics.

But back then, we weren't very good either as compared to the big dogs. We got there.

And to go back? Also, with so much investment in the university and basketball, going back doesn't pay the bills. It would cripple them financially.