Lets predict the Big East basketball standing 2024-25

[MHettel]

Ok so I guess it wasn’t self explanatory. I’m not worried about x this year. Unless they have another injury (knock on wood) they are making the tournament. Too much talent on top of miller being the coach.

I want the conference to have as much success as possible because more bids, more money, better tv deals, more branding etc etc etc.

I’m XU first, always.

To the extent that X is out of it, like last year, then I’m rooting for conference success as a consolation prize.

It’s gravy and when we get both.

If X is marginal and needs an “assist” from the rest of the conference, then of course I’m rooting for the conference. But make no mistake, im rooting for the conference because it BENEFITS XU.

If we can position ourselves for a good seed and a deep potential tourney run based on our own performance only, then I'm ultra focused on the team and if the rest of the conference is doing well, then like I said it’s gravy.

You decide….

Would you take a Final Four for XU in a year that the Big East far underperformed and had only 2 bids (cause 1 bid is not realistic) with the other team losing in the first round….

Or a year with 6 BE tourney teams and 4 getting to the Sweet 16 (including X)?

That’s not a difficult choice for me.

So I’m not rooting against the conference. I’m just saying that I’m rooting for X before I root for the conference and if the conference performance has little bearing on what X can accomplish, then my focus is narrowed

[Xville]

I’m XU first, always.

To the extent that X is out of it, like last year, then I’m rooting for conference success as a consolation prize.

It’s gravy and when we get both.

If X is marginal and needs an “assist” from the rest of the conference, then of course I’m rooting for the conference. But make no mistake, im rooting for the conference because it BENEFITS XU.

If we can position ourselves for a good seed and a deep potential tourney run based on our own performance only, then I'm ultra focused on the team and if the rest of the conference is doing well, then like I said it’s gravy.

You decide….

Would you take a Final Four for XU in a year that the Big East far underperformed and had only 2 bids (cause 1 bid is not realistic) with the other team losing in the first round….

Or a year with 6 BE tourney teams and 4 getting to the Sweet 16 (including X)?

That’s not a difficult choice for me.

So I’m not rooting against the conference. I’m just saying that I’m rooting for X before I root for the conference and if the conference performance has little bearing on what X can accomplish, then my focus is narrowed

Not an either or situation for me. I want the conference to do as well as possible every single year and root for all of them (except maybe butler) in the non-con. I also want Xavier to do as well as possible and get to a final four at some point. Better the conference does every year, the better for x in the areas I mentioned previously.

[MHettel]

Not an either or situation for me. I want the conference to do as well as possible every single year and root for all of them (except maybe butler) in the non-con. I also want Xavier to do as well as possible and get to a final four at some point. Better the conference does every year, the better for x in the areas I mentioned previously.

So I presented you with an either or scenario. One that could be realistic or plausible. And you respond but dont answer.

The point of the question is to get your answer.

If you answer with the first option, you support my point of view.

If you answer with the second option, it aligns to your flippant initial response to my original post, but yet nobody would believe that’s a genuine answer.

And failing to answer by declaring that it’s not an “either / or situation” (which it most certainly is) is the same as answering in favor of option 1, without having to say so.

Is that a fair answer on your behalf, or would you like to clarify?

[Xville]

So I presented you with an either or scenario. One that could be realistic or plausible. And you respond but dont answer.

The point of the question is to get your answer.

If you answer with the first option, you support my point of view.

If you answer with the second option, it aligns to your flippant initial response to my original post, but yet nobody would believe that’s a genuine answer.

And failing to answer by declaring that it’s not an “either / or situation” (which it most certainly is) is the same as answering in favor of option 1, without having to say so.

Is that a fair answer on your behalf, or would you like to clarify?

Not sure what climbed up your ass. Your initial response to what I had said about other teams in the big East was “ who cares what other teams have done up to that point.” I stated why it matters in the next post, at least to me and apparently dash as well.

Then, you went on a tangent. So, I’m gonna move on.

[MHettel]

Not sure what climbed up your ass. Your initial response to what I had said about other teams in the big East was “ who cares what other teams have done up to that point.” I stated why it matters in the next post, at least to me and apparently dash as well.

Then, you went on a tangent. So, I’m gonna move on.

Yeah. I expected nothing more from you.

I provided context for my answer, which you omitted from your critique of my position of “who cares”.

The reality is that I often care. But sometimes I don’t. But it’s ALWAYS in the interest of X.

And sometimes you don’t too. Just answer my question. There are only 2 options.

Do you acknowledge the context of my original comment? It’s not some riddle. I provided the context in that post.

[Xavier]

Having the conference do well OOC helps give some leeway in conference. Look at when we were in the A-10. Having the conference do well OOC was nice so we didn’t have to completely dominate to get an at large. In the case for this year, where the tournament seems inevitable, it helps with seeding.

Outside of that, I don’t care. I think it’s obvious X doing well is more important to all Xavier fans. And I think it’s obvious the better the conference is the more slip ups X will be granted. It really hurts when you are right on the bubble. If the overall conference was a little better last year- SH would’ve made the dance.

If you don’t think the conference doing well has an impact on Xavier then why would we have left the A10?

[MHettel]

Having the conference do well OOC helps give some leeway in conference. Look at when we were in the A-10. Having the conference do well OOC was nice so we didn’t have to completely dominate to get an at large. In the case for this year, where the tournament seems inevitable, it helps with seeding.

Outside of that, I don’t care. I think it’s obvious X doing well is more important to all Xavier fans. And I think it’s obvious the better the conference is the more slip ups X will be granted. It really hurts when you are right on the bubble. If the overall conference was a little better last year- SH would’ve made the dance.

If you don’t think the conference doing well has an impact on Xavier then why would we have left the A10?

At some point slip ups don’t matter.

I don’t want to Cinderella our way into the FF. I want to MARCH there. To get where we want to go, you have to face the best. Win the non-con. Compete for the top of the Big East. Then play the best in the NCAAs and win.

You can get to that last step in several ways, but the quality of the team will always shine through