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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    Because Republican state legislators are busy making it difficult for women to make their own health care decisions.
    Therefore, in many states, it IS on the ballot.
    Let's stop with this euphemism and call it what it is. Making it an ok choice to kill unborn babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Let's stop with this euphemism and call it what it is. Making it an ok choice to kill unborn babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Let's stop with this euphemism and call it what it is. Making it an ok choice to kill unborn babies.
    When you are talking about limiting contraceptives, tracking the menstrual cycles of women, and criminalizing doctors actions, it's much more than that simplistic view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    When you are talking about limiting contraceptives, tracking the menstrual cycles of women, and criminalizing doctors actions, it's much more than that simplistic view.
    let's talk about the majority of what it is, killing babies. You can justify it however you want to feel ok about it from a moral standpoint with one offs here and there. However, for the most part, it's about girls having the ability to kill babies.

    I mean why don't we just legalize murder completely. It's my body, my choice. If I want to kill someone, my body did it, so that's fine now.

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    We've probably beaten this subject to death.
    I don't personally favor abortion (think unwanted children can be adopted).
    But I don't think it's as black and white as you would like.
    For hundreds of years the Church was OK with it , up to quickening. Assume that meant it wasn't a "baby" until that point.
    Then one pope changed it, and the culture around it.
    Maybe you should talk to Melania.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    We've probably beaten this subject to death.
    I don't personally favor abortion (think unwanted children can be adopted).
    But I don't think it's as black and white as you would like.
    For hundreds of years the Church was OK with it , up to quickening. Assume that meant it wasn't a "baby" until that point.
    Then one pope changed it, and the culture around it.
    Maybe you should talk to Melania.
    Why would I care what Melania says about it? And trust me I don't care one way or the other if the Church was ok with it. The church has been fine with boys getting sexually abused for hundreds of years. The church is not my moral code.

    I just happen to think murder is wrong, and if you choose to have sex, you deal with the consequences of those actions. And yes I understand incest and rape, thats a point of a percent, and not what we are talking about here.

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    Why would I care what Melania says about it? And trust me I don't care one way or the other if the Church was ok with it. The church has been fine with boys getting sexually abused for hundreds of years. The church is not my moral code.

    I just happen to think murder is wrong, and if you choose to have sex, you deal with the consequences of those actions. And yes I understand incest and rape, thats a point of a percent, and not what we are talking about here.
    It is way more than incest and rape.

    What about miscarriage treatment? That is technically an abortion.

    What about IVF? Those are fertilized eggs.

    The Supreme Court punted the EMTALA case last session, but it is likely to come back as doctors are unsure what care they are permitted to provide pregnant women suffering complications.
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    Guys...let's try to understand why the Republicans are allowing this to be a MAJOR issue in the POTUS election. You would think that every Republican would be making this clear that this is a State issue now.

    I mean, Brown is running ads on a loop, about Morino's anti-abortion stance. He has nothing to do with Ohio abortion policy. He's running for US SENATE!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuperman View Post
    Guys...let's try to understand why the Republicans are allowing this to be a MAJOR issue in the POTUS election. You would think that every Republican would be making this clear that this is a State issue now.

    I mean, Brown is running ads on a loop, about Morino's anti-abortion stance. He has nothing to do with Ohio abortion policy. He's running for US SENATE!!
    Already stated, if you repeat a lie over and over, people will believe it. It’s that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STL_XUfan View Post
    It is way more than incest and rape.

    What about miscarriage treatment? That is technically an abortion.

    What about IVF? Those are fertilized eggs.

    The Supreme Court punted the EMTALA case last session, but it is likely to come back as doctors are unsure what care they are permitted to provide pregnant women suffering complications.
    So, can we agree that maybe states pass laws for the scenarios that you mentioned above that saves women’s lives, ivf etc.

    I’m guessing if that happened, the abortion issue would still be an issue because people still want the ability to murder babies

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