Politics Thread

[Xville]

Maybe you should get out more and read things outside of your biased cocoon.

The news in Smails article has been widely reported and discussed for months.

Also, crime did not come down in NYC in 2023. Dig a little deeper....

So much irony in that first statement.

Point me to where I said it did genius.

[xuphan]

Yep. Hes another that needs to be put out to pasture just like Trump, Biden.

https://www.allsides.com/news/2024-0...-calling-d-day

Wow! Politics aside what an idiot. Hope he gets an earful from the brave women and men who defend this country. Wonder if he thinks the Boston Tea Party was a disaster as well?

[Xuperman]

Discussing America's big city crime and law enforcement/criminal justice reform, is probably the most dishonest political discussion going.....and discussing it here is no different.

Example: Criminal statistics. The genesis of most crime stats is law enforcement arresting individuals for suspected criminal activity and charging the perpetrators with crimes. The following can not be debated.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/th...ms/ar-AA1ijdSm

This is a very serious problem coast to coast. However, what can not be statistically recorded is the officers (that somehow manage to stick) willingness to engage suspected criminal activity. There is some actual policy being implemented that discourages police engaging certain crimes, while there is an increasing amount of rumors that some police are CHOOSING not to engage because of NEWLY created risks involved.

So, if those here who insist stats show crime is no big issue, post something, anything, that would explain the mass exodus of cops from our biggest cities. Only then can an honest discussion take place.

[Xville]

Uh police are leaving the job because the job sucks and you don’t make good money doing it. Didnt know that had to be pointed out.

If I have the chance of dying or getting shot at, I better be getting paid accordingly.

No one is saying crime isn’t a problem, you, like many here, just take issues to such an extreme that no one can have a reasonable discussion with you.

[Xuperman]

Uh police are leaving the job because the job sucks and you don’t make good money doing it. Didnt know that had to be pointed out.

Thanks for making my point. That response could not be more dishonest. You've really out done yourself.... and that's saying something.

Being a police officer in this country has always been a highly respected profession held in the highest esteem. These heroes have a calling to protect and serve. Money has never been much of a factor, and you know it.

There has NEVER been this type of widespread exodus of officer ranks in the history of American Law Enforcement.This is a disturbing trend that has gained mass momentum due to the drastic law enforcement changes of the last decade. So, absolutely the job sucks now...as opposed to how it was a proud profession prior to BLM.

How can constant reduction in police rolls, dismal recruiting numbers, demoralized officers working a job that sucks, with low pay, and can get you killed, magically reduce crime?

You post in ridiculous numbers here, but never really add anything of substance. Why not expose yourself occasionally with some detail with your position on issues?

[Xville]

Thanks for making my point. That response could not be more dishonest. You've really out done yourself.... and that's saying something.

Being a police officer in this country has always been a highly respected profession held in the highest esteem. These heroes have a calling to protect and serve. Money has never been much of a factor, and you know it.

There has NEVER been this type of widespread exodus of officer ranks in the history of American Law Enforcement.This is a disturbing trend that has gained mass momentum due to the drastic law enforcement changes of the last decade. Would you care to explain why the job sucks now, as opposed to how it was a proud profession prior to BLM?

No one was anrguing about the job being some highly respected profession held in high esteem but thank you for the tangent. The job has always sucked. It’s always been low pay with a chance of dying and getting shot at. The fact the job sucks is magnified now because a lot of people have realized that cops aren’t infallible and there are a lot of bad ones out there who make not only bad decisions, but horrible life threatening decisions and escalate things that don’t need to be escalated. Due to that, the good ones’ jobs have been made more difficult and just say f it I’m done. That, combined with low pay, and chance of dying or getting shot at = job suckage.


You clearly have a narrative you are trying to push with opinionated feelings and maybes with zero proof and I’m not interested in following you down some narrative wormhole.

You tried to push the nyc crime narrative with zero proof and got it handed to you and now you’re moving on to something else. I’m disinterested, you don’t want to debate, you just want lou or one of your extremist buddies on here to say you’re right, so you can feel better.

[Xuperman]

You clearly have a narrative you are trying to push with opinionated feelings and maybes with zero proof and I’m not interested in following you down some narrative wormhole.

I don't know what the hell your talking about. Your calling this ZERO proof?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/th...ms/ar-AA1ijdSm

You're a complete nut.

[XU_Lou]

I don't know what the hell your talking about. Your calling this ZERO proof?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/th...ms/ar-AA1ijdSm

You're a complete nut.

He got his ass whooped again, and he can't admit it.

You, MID and others have pointed out hard statistics, but since Rachel Madcow doesn't talk about it, it's not a problem in Ville's little cocoon. He can't admit that the Democrats have completely fucked our police and judicial system.

Cause and effect is a thought process beyond his capabilities....

He owes you an apology.

[paulxu]

He got his ass whooped again, and he can't admit it.

You, MID and others have pointed out hard statistics, but since Rachel Madcow doesn't talk about it, it's not a problem in Ville's little cocoon. He can't admit that the Democrats have completely fucked our police and judicial system.

Cause and effect is a thought process beyond his capabilities....

He owes you an apology.

Democrats completely fucking our police.

https://x.com/i/status/1801234056002019455

[Xville]

He got his ass whooped again, and he can't admit it.

You, MID and others have pointed out hard statistics, but since Rachel Madcow doesn't talk about it, it's not a problem in Ville's little cocoon. He can't admit that the Democrats have completely fucked our police and judicial system.

Cause and effect is a thought process beyond his capabilities....

He owes you an apology.

lol you’re such a dork. Show me again where I talked about 2023 in nyc, Lou? You make shit up in your own head.

Where are all these hard core stats you and mid have brought to the table? lol. I am the one who has brought the stats looney lou. Go crawl back to your hole.