Politics Thread

[XU_Lou]

Yep. And the J6 committee would not permit any testimony about that.


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Just like Merchan wouldn't allow former FEC Commissioner Bradley Smith to testify.

Do you see a pattern?

[bobbiemcgee]

Lindsay Graham said D Day was as failure.

[bjf123]

Just like Merchan wouldn't allow former FEC Commissioner Bradley Smith to testify.

Do you see a pattern?

You’d have to be brain dead not to see it!


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[Xuperman]

I'm not coming at this from a political point of view. I'm coming at this as someone who likes going to NYC, and who once actually considered moving to NYC, and who has a lot of friends who live there. Everyone says that NYC is this dangerous place, and that crime is out of control, and that nothing is done to combat the out of control violent crime. That is just CATEGORICALLY not true! It's safe! it's VERY safe! The streets feel safe. The subways feel safe. The bars feel safe. Most people don't think of NYC as having nice beaches, but they actually do, and those are safe as well. People who say NYC is dangerous all seem to have one thing in common. They've NEVER actually been there.

I lived in and around NYC for 7 years....'97-'04. My son was born in Port Jervis NY. My brother in law lives on Long Island. I know the area really well and still go there on occasion. Glad to hear the city has provided a good experience for you, but I am guessing those experiences were not in Alphabet City Manhattan, Jamaica Queens or Flatbush in Brooklyn.

Look, the "Criminal Justice Reform" movement is relatively new. The "Defund the Police" concept would have been considered INSANE 15 years ago. Widespread prosecution of rank and file police officers has become common since Obama. This stuff has been firmly implemented in nearly ALL of our BIG CITIES....especially those under Dem control.

I would love to hear any coherent reasoning that this anti-law enforcement shift reduces crime, but making that argument doesn't seem possible. These practices do nothing but create a mass exodus in existing police forces and severely demoralize those that stay. Orders to not engage certain criminal activity has become common. Progressive prosecutors are actively working with a "Criminal Justice" mindset resulting in decreases in crimes prosecuted, with little to NO BOND for large numbers that are. Shoplifting and other petty crimes are now LEGAL!

Believing crime is down is just not logical. Insisting it is.....along with having the ability to vote.....is dangerous.

[Xville]

I lived in and around NYC for 7 years....'97-'04. My son was born in Port Jervis NY. My brother in law lives on Long Island. I know the area really well and still go there on occasion. Glad to hear the city has provided a good experience for you, but I am guessing those experiences were not in Alphabet City Manhattan, Jamaica Queens or Flatbush in Brooklyn.

Look, the "Criminal Justice Reform" movement is relatively new. The "Defund the Police" concept would have been considered INSANE 15 years ago. Widespread prosecution of rank and file police officers has become common since Obama. This stuff has been firmly implemented in nearly ALL of our BIG CITIES....especially those under Dem control.

I would love to hear any coherent reasoning that this anti-law enforcement shift reduces crime, but making that argument doesn't seem possible. These practices do nothing but create a mass exodus in existing police forces and severely demoralize those that stay. Orders to not engage certain criminal activity has become common. Progressive prosecutors are actively working with a "Criminal Justice" mindset resulting in decreases in crimes prosecuted, with little to NO BOND for large numbers that are. Shoplifting and other petty crimes are now LEGAL!

Believing crime is down is just not logical. Insisting it is.....along with having the ability to vote.....is dangerous.

What's dangerous to me is just insisting on things because you "feel" a certain way no matter how many stats are put in front of you. Take a look at numbers from 2022-2024 in New York City and compare that to Guiliani's New York in 2000.

Hell, take a look at Cincinnati...the latest numbers of 2022 was that the city was at a ten year low for crime. Democratic run city by the way.

The rest of your fear stoking Anti-police, Defund the police, "Criminal Justice Reform" I'd like to see some actual proof, not media talking points from Trump, his followers or biased BLM agenda nonsense.

[xuphan]

Lindsay Graham said D Day was as failure.

Did he really? Do you have a link with what he said?

[Xville]

Did he really? Do you have a link with what he said?

Yep. Hes another that needs to be put out to pasture just like Trump, Biden.

https://www.allsides.com/news/2024-0...-calling-d-day

[Smails]

What's dangerous to me is just insisting on things because you "feel" a certain way no matter how many stats are put in front of you. Take a look at numbers from 2022-2024 in New York City and compare that to Guiliani's New York in 2000.

Hell, take a look at Cincinnati...the latest numbers of 2022 was that the city was at a ten year low for crime. Democratic run city by the way.

The rest of your fear stoking Anti-police, Defund the police, "Criminal Justice Reform" I'd like to see some actual proof, not media talking points from Trump, his followers or biased BLM agenda nonsense.

I agree anecdotal stories about "I know someone who got jumped in Cincinnati" don't hold any water. That being said, there needs to be more transparency about crime statistics and how they are formulated.

I don't subscribe to the theory that police aren't reporting and investigating crimes or that DA's aren't prosecuting, but there is a HUGE problem with cities and counties just flat out not reporting any data. Some states have even reported less than 60% of crime data. I don't think it's a stretch to to theorize that cities with bad crime numbers are't going to jump to the front of the line to send their information to the FBI. Interesting read here:

https://kansasreflector.com/2023/10/...s-often-wrong/

[Xville]

I agree anecdotal stories about "I know someone who got jumped in Cincinnati" don't hold any water. That being said, there needs to be more transparency about crime statistics and how they are formulated.

I don't subscribe to the theory that police aren't reporting and investigating crimes or that DA's aren't prosecuting, but there is a HUGE problem with cities and counties just flat out not reporting any data. Some states have even reported less than 60% of crime data. I don't think it's a stretch to to theorize that cities with bad crime numbers are't going to jump to the front of the line to send their information to the FBI. Interesting read here:

https://kansasreflector.com/2023/10/...s-often-wrong/

Interesting read. Thanks for sharing!

[XU_Lou]

Interesting read. Thanks for sharing!

Maybe you should get out more and read things outside of your biased cocoon.

The news in Smails article has been widely reported and discussed for months.

Also, crime did not come down in NYC in 2023. Dig a little deeper....