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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Worrying just for the sake of worrying. There are a ton of teams in the same boat as pointed out earlier in this thread.

    Louisville has three guys on their roster. I don’t understand the daily worrying.

    Some of you all need to pop a few ritalin
    Maybe you need to get laid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHettel View Post
    Maybe you need to get laid.
    Your mom was busy.

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    This just keeps getting classier…….

    I think we can do better, don’t you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Worrying just for the sake of worrying. There are a ton of teams in the same boat as pointed out earlier in this thread.

    Louisville has three guys on their roster. I don’t understand the daily worrying.

    Some of you all need to pop a few ritalin
    Yeah. I don’t worry much about portal stuff, even though I like to follow it. Boum and Quincy weren’t thought of as high portal guys. Both were all big east players. Steele brought an understandable era of pessimism. Despite Sean bringing one of the better seasons X has ever had, a season defined by injuries makes it hard for people to get past that.

    I get being worried if you don’t dive deep into what happened. Even Mhett agreed we’d be a tournament team if healthy. Even just one of free/hunter. It will take a few years to get used to the turnover. But eventually people won’t look much into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpin_Jamal_Forever View Post
    I wonder if we are approaching a top in the NIL market. Perhaps there is a parallel between what is going on with NIL and the concept of a financial market bubble. For example, a stock market top, like the dot com bubble, started with a displacement to the existing order, the introduction of technology----the internet. The introduction and adoption of the internet fueled a rise in "dot.com" stocks. In the late nineties and early 2000, every publicly traded business that adopted a website saw a huge valuation increase. The displacement of traditional sales channels by the internet fueled a euphoric rise in internet stock prices. They kept going up and up, ignoring traditional methods of valuation and seeming like they would never come down. Everybody had to get in on the action. But, at the top, everybody was in, including those with poor, unsustainable business models. That is when some insiders started bailing out of the stocks---selling into hot, frothy markets. They were the "smart money".

    Then came the bust when it became obvious some equities were hugely, hugely overvalued, sometimes simply because they had introduced a website. Anybody remember Pets.com? At that point, the market crashed and stayed down for a couple of years. The same chain of events occurred with the subprime crisis and then the home exercise craze brought on by Covid. Peloton anyone? In each case, the valuation of some businesses exploded upward very quickly, fueled by some new way of doing business, some basic change in the rulebook, only to crash within a short time period.

    Perhaps that is a model for what is now happening in the portal and NIL. We had a couple of key rule changes which displaced the prior way college basketball conducted itself. That has led very quickly to a mushrooming in the number of kids transferring and in demands for NIL packages. This type of activity has exploded in just the last couple of years.

    What is a sign this might all be topping out? Well, maybe it is when coaches start bailing (Jay Wright, Nick Saban) or when team sponsors, like universities, throw up their hands and stop sponsoring basketball teams. My own view is that if and when annual turnover approaches a very high level, say 75% and does that every year, the fans stop paying attention. They just lose interest-----a condition Xuperman labeled "looming discomfort" in an earlier post and one for which he was attacked by those on this board who view the portal and NIL as a victory for the college athlete and anyone who questions the current state of college hoops as a mossbacked archconservative.

    I don't know but just seems like this cannot go on, as it is proceeding today, without one or more of the parties, players, coaches, universities or fans throwing in the towel. It is probably not going to be the players as they are the prime beneficiaries. On the other hand, both the dot.com and subprime bubbles went on for a few years. and so may this. But, in the end, I think we see a crash of some kind in NIL values.
    It is safe to say no one knows where College basketball will end up when it is all sorted out but it is safe to say it will never be the same. The reason stocks go up is there is money chasing them . Today we have well funded collectives chasing players. Schools that have a strong network of commercial and private contributors whose teams are perennial winners will succeed. Everyone else will be an annual hit or miss . Boosters are not going to annually fund collectives for teams that are in the middle to bottom of their league. It is just a bad investment and no fun. Xavier evidently had a booster that pledged a $500 K match which one poster said had produced $250 K which would total $500 K while others have suggested they have $2 M on hand. The non transparency of the system makes it hard to evaluate whether a coach is doing good. If Sean only has $500 K it would seem that would just cover his current roster. If he has $2M then the expectation is he can get a decent front court . However , if the $500 K booster was a one and done, raising $ 2M every year seems like a stretch particularly if we are not consistently winning and going to the tourney.

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    Holtman already making moves at DePaul. Picked this dude up from Covington:

    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...95/jacob-meyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHettel View Post
    open court layup on this one....

    NCST signed the #24 ranked transfer from a conference rival that they played TWICE this year. Huntley put up 30 pts, 17 rebs, 5 assist, 2 blocks and 2 steals against NCST. Coming out of High School, the kid was ranked #24 in the country, #7 at his position, and #1 in his state (Pennsylvania).

    I can only IMAGINE the number of hours it took for them to find this guy.
    lol so in other words you can work the transfer portal and be in the tourney. Thank you for agreeing with common sense. You just contradicted yourself, again. Lol

    And disregard the other side of recruiting where you gotta beat out all the other teams that wanted him. But you don’t live in reality so I guess we’ll let that one slide.
    Last edited by Xville; 04-05-2024 at 09:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    lol so in other words you can work the transfer portal and be in the tourney. Thank you for agreeing with common sense. You just contradicted yourself, again. Lol

    And disregard the other side of recruiting where you gotta beat out all the other teams that wanted him. But you don’t live in reality so I guess we’ll let that one slide.
    This was what I said:

    No, you covered it. You asserted that in the midst of practice and game prep, we could just magically create additional capacity to commit to the portal. This is not my position at all. I think any coach will focus his resources on the next game and devote very little to something that is not immediately in front of them. And yes, the portal will be fluid which I don’t really like too much. But it’s better to be early than late.

    So NCST had to do "very little" to grab Huntley. And Illinois had to do "very little" to grab Storr.

    Thats what I said.

    In the meantime, in separate interviews Hurley and Izzo SCOFF at the idea of spending ANY time in the portal.

    But you be you!

  9. #749
    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Holtman already making moves at DePaul. Picked this dude up from Covington:

    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...95/jacob-meyer
    Solid looking player with 3 years left. Good first move

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHettel View Post
    This was what I said:

    No, you covered it. You asserted that in the midst of practice and game prep, we could just magically create additional capacity to commit to the portal. This is not my position at all. I think any coach will focus his resources on the next game and devote very little to something that is not immediately in front of them. And yes, the portal will be fluid which I don’t really like too much. But it’s better to be early than late.

    So NCST had to do "very little" to grab Huntley. And Illinois had to do "very little" to grab Storr.

    Thats what I said.

    In the meantime, in separate interviews Hurley and Izzo SCOFF at the idea of spending ANY time in the portal.

    But you be you!

    “Very little” except all the other parts of recruiting a player like that, ya know like beating out the other teams. Damn narratives.

    But you be you!

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