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  1. #581
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Let me simplify this for you. No one is saying we can’t get a big because of free. Some on here think we can get 3 legitimate big men with free and hunter on the roster. I call that ridiculous. How is anyone even arguing the opposite? It’s insanity.. unless all of a sudden there has been a rule change and that now 7-8 guys on one team can be on the court at the same time?
    So you are saying our max roster size should be between 8-9 guys because, “we can’t guarantee minutes” to anyone else? Am I reading that right? I guess that is a win for the University to save money on scholarships each season and allow players who are here to earn more NIL money. It all makes sense now why we have so many guys transferring out and are only bringing in 1 high school kid. Thanks XVILLE for clearing that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xuphan View Post
    So you are saying our max roster size should be between 8-9 guys because, “we can’t guarantee minutes” to anyone else? Am I reading that right? I guess that is a win for the University to save money on scholarships each season and allow players who are here to earn more NIL money. It all makes sense now why we have so many guys transferring out and are only bringing in 1 high school kid. Thanks XVILLE for clearing that up.
    Nope not saying that at all. Try again. You said three legitimate big men. Let me back up. What does three legitimate big men mean to you? Three starter level big East players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xuphan View Post
    So you are saying our max roster size should be between 8-9 guys because, “we can’t guarantee minutes” to anyone else? Am I reading that right? I guess that is a win for the University to save money on scholarships each season and allow players who are here to earn more NIL money. It all makes sense now why we have so many guys transferring out and are only bringing in 1 high school kid. Thanks XVILLE for clearing that up.
    80 minutes a game between the 4 and 5 positions. you can't have Free and Hunter getting 30 minutes each and promise 3 other bigs 25+ minutes a game as well, with out being a liar. You can bring in project type guys and lesser quality players with upside with no promise of minutes. The types of bigs who are going posters have been talking about, "big east type bigs" and such, aren't coming on the promise of 10 minutes a game with a chance someone gets hurt and your minutes go up.

  4. #584
    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    You can bring in a winning roster that has something that involves reality. One legitimate 5 with a rotational 4/5, a shooter , and a healthy free and x is a tourney team.
    Yeah, I agree with this.

    Unfortunately, we’ve been a “tourney team” about 80% of the time for the last 35 years.

    I kinda thought the bar would be higher by now.

    Is the plan just to make enough tournaments as a 3 thru 10 seed enough times and we will make a FF eventually?

    What’s the plan to make a final 4? Are we gonna build a Talent pipeline and build our way there, or are we just gonna turnover the roster every year and hope we win the portal lottery with cheap overlooked guys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHettel View Post
    Yeah, I agree with this.

    Unfortunately, we’ve been a “tourney team” about 80% of the time for the last 35 years.

    I kinda thought the bar would be higher by now.

    Is the plan just to make enough tournaments as a 3 thru 10 seed enough times and we will make a FF eventually?

    What’s the plan to make a final 4? Are we gonna build a Talent pipeline and build our way there, or are we just gonna turnover the roster every year and hope we win the portal lottery with cheap overlooked guys?
    It’s a mixture… build pipeline, fill in with transfers.

    You get in the tourney enough times, you get the opportunity to get to a final four. First step is getting back there consistently. I mean captain obvious but Steele set this program back about a decade.

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    What do those numbers look like if you take the Steele years out? He took over a program that was a 2 seed/elite 8/ 1 seed and did a complete nose dive. Was a brutal stretch.

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    Let me just ask this…..who was the last legitimate, starter from day one, highly rated and sought after big that X brought in as a transfer? Under any coach?

    And some people are demanding that X somehow land 3 this off season? That’s not very realistic.

    I agree that they really need to bring in a BE level starting center, but needing it and doing are still 2 very different and difficult things. EVERY power 6 in the country is going to go after the same 10-15 players. The odds certainly aren’t in Xavier’s favor.

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    Did nunge start right away? It’s also a different era. Free transfer opens up a lot, add NIL and it’s not unrealistic for them to bring solid big guys.
    Last edited by Xavier; 03-29-2024 at 09:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier View Post
    Did nunge start right away?
    Did Nunge meet the criteria set forth? (legitimate starter, from day 1, highly sought after) Didn't he have question marks about him after multiple knee injuries he was coming back from?

  10. #590
    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    It’s a mixture… build pipeline, fill in with transfers.

    You get in the tourney enough times, you get the opportunity to get to a final four. First step is getting back there consistently. I mean captain obvious but Steele set this program back about a decade.
    Ok. Yeah. Steele was horrible. We agreee

    But miller stepped into Colby, jack, kunk, free, and Hunter. Dez came in as a frosh, and miller grabbed Boum. Great job by Sean to grab that missing piece and be a far superior strategist and game coach.

    But, he shoulda turned that roster over more. Miles, Tandy, Edwards and Tucker. Should’ve gone the way of Ben Stanley.

    This years roster issues are connected to last years roster mismanagement that didn’t hurt last years team but did hurt us this year.

    And now, we are in a more dire situation.

    So we agree, the path to the Final Four is with a roster of recruited developed guys and a mix of transfers.

    We don’t have the first piece. And we may not have the budget for the second piece.

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