Politics Thread

[Xville]

Not only are the anti-democracy Democrats waging lawfare against Trump to prevent Americans from voting for him, but they are now using similar tactics against third party candidates. Is this the kind of country that we want to live in? Jonathan Turley just said “This country is a powder keg". He's not a flamethrower by any means. I agree with him, we are in a very precarious place. Are we headed towards tyranny and/or violence? I'm sorry, but people have completely lost their minds over Trump.


"A coalition of Democratic and Republican anti-Trump (fake RINOs) groups are organizing an aggressive, multi-front campaign to stop the independent group No Labels from injecting a third major candidate in the upcoming 2024 election.

Their plans, laid out in a private, roughly 80-minute call obtained by Semafor, include legal attacks, opposition research and warnings to potential candidates and donors that involvement with No Labels could make them politically toxic.

No Labels, founded in 2010 by a top Washington political fundraiser, Nancy Jacobson, bills itself as an answer to America’s divisive partisan politics, and has sought to present a poll-tested centrist platform. Democrats believe any such effort is far likelier to pull votes from Biden than from Trump, whose supporters are more committed to their candidate.

The call, organized by the center-left Democratic group Third Way with the help of the progressive Move On, also included representatives of End Citizens United, the Lincoln Project, American Bridge, Public Citizen, and Reproductive Freedom for All. Attendees included prominent anti-Trump Republicans Sarah Longwell and Bill Kristol, former Democratic Sen. Doug Jones, and an aide to the Democratic billionaire Reid Hoffman, Dmitri Mehlhorn.

“Through every channel we have, to their donors, their friends, the press, everyone — everyone — should send the message: If you have one fingernail clipping of a skeleton in your closet, we will find it,” one speaker said during the call. “If you think you were vetted when you ran for governor, you’re insane. That was nothing. We are going to come at you with every gun we can possibly find. We did not do that with Jill Stein or Gary Johnson, we should have, and we will not make that mistake again.”

https://www.semafor.com/article/12/1...inst-no-labels

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/08/u...no-labels.html

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-destroy-party

Good. Politicians doing what is best for the country. A new concept

Trump is the rino

[X-band '01]

Does that mean the other 61% are optimistic?

They just don't read this board.

[Smails]

They just don't read this board.

Or it could be that they put themselves into other categories. One of 3 things is happening here:

1) The talking points and data being pushed out to create momentum for this administration is cherry picked and not representative of what's really happening.

2) This administration is so disjointed, incompetent or distrusted that they don't have the ability to have these wonderful economic conditions resonate with the populace...both dem and GOP voters.

3) It's all Trumps fault

From Fortune:

Even those rosy forecasts did little to dampen the concerns among most middle-class Americans. Millennials and Gen X remained particularly worried about the economy, with 57% and 71% respectively saying they were pessimistic about it improving in the coming months. “Both groups are likely burdened with tremendous family and personal responsibilities,” Spagnolo said.

Gen X reported having their finances consumed by credit card debt and the need to save for retirement. Millennials, on the other hand, faced the same financial challenges while adding that they also had to take care of aging relatives and save for the elusive dream of buying a home.

[GoMuskies]

Good. Politicians doing what is best for the country. A new concept

Trump is the rino

What? This is ridiculous. Good politicians would be begging for a good No Labels candidate and begging people to vote for him/her.

[Xville]

What? This is ridiculous. Good politicians would be begging for a good No Labels candidate and begging people to vote for him/her.

While I agree that’s just not going to happen. With the system that is set up today, A third party candidate has zero chance of winning. So, they are doing everything to keep trump from office which I appreciate. I wish they could keep both trump and Biden from office, but that doesn’t seem plausible

[paulxu]

Solution:
Florida sent planeloads of migrants to Martha's Vineyard
Florida now has a labor shortage
Texas is sending planeloads of migrants to Chicago.
Texas should send planeloads of migrants to Florida.

[Masterofreality]

Solution:
Florida sent planeloads of migrants to Martha's Vineyard
Florida now has a labor shortage
Texas is sending planeloads of migrants to Chicago.
Texas should send planeloads of migrants to Florida.

No. Maybe California could round up all their Homeless and Drug Addicts and send them to Florida.
Newsome is too stupid to think of that one though.
Texas can just keep on sending their ILLEGALS to SANCTUARY CITIES. You know. Those places that are supposed to have their arms open, but now are bitching about their open arms.
Now THAT is a smart Governor.

[GoMuskies]

While I agree that’s just not going to happen. With the system that is set up today, A third party candidate has zero chance of winning. So, they are doing everything to keep trump from office which I appreciate. I wish they could keep both trump and Biden from office, but that doesn’t seem plausible

Gross. Trump sucks, but when the alternative is Biden I'm sure as hell not giving out compliments to people working to keep third parties off the ballot. Those people can fuck right off. Honestly, these people are terrible enough I might actually vote for Trump. I don't want to, but if you're going to take away the palatable alternatives, here we are. At least with Trump we got Kavanaugh and ACB.

[Muskie in dayton]

“In democracy, we choose candidates by VOTING. Not by legal maneuvers to get them off the ballot.”
- RFK Jr.

He may well be the only presidential candidate with integrity.

[Xville]

“In democracy, we choose candidates by VOTING. Not by legal maneuvers to get them off the ballot.”
- RFK Jr.

He may well be the only presidential candidate with integrity.

A Kennedy with integrity. That’s funny