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    What worries me a little is the fact that these guys probably aren't going to stick around for 4 years. Most of them don't now.

    So we can talk about development and the future all we want, but them being around is not a guarantee anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drudy23 View Post
    What worries me a little is the fact that these guys probably aren't going to stick around for 4 years. Most of them don't now.

    So we can talk about development and the future all we want, but them being around is not a guarantee anymore.
    No doubt but guys who don’t play as freshman will usually be a coaches decision if they stay or go. For guys like Des who don’t go pro will get some really enticing offers. Hope Xavier is ready to pony up if it comes to something like that. I am all for guys making money but Today’s college sports is not in a good spot.

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    So it turns out that returning only one player from the previous year is hard, huh?

    Who woulda thunk it?
    Last edited by DexterBailey84; 11-28-2023 at 08:16 PM.

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    It would be nice if X could make guys sign a contract saying after Miller develops them into good players they can’t run off for more money ������*♂️

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    Quote Originally Posted by XfansinKy View Post
    It would be nice if X could make guys sign a contract saying after Miller develops them into good players they can’t run off for more money ������*♂️
    Who are you worried about?

    X has not had a single player transfer somewhere better in recent memory. The last person I can think to do so was Lyons to go play for Miller at Arizona but him and Mack had issues. Seemed mutual.

    Since NIL none of our players have left for somewhere else bc they were offered more money.
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    Churchill Odia transferred to Oregon a long time ago. Still can't figure that one out. He was bad for us and bad for them.

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    Let's say hypothetically we take UCONN, Marq, Nova, or Creighton's 2 best players off their team and have 1, yes one returning player, and see how good they are. Especially using 3 Euros, who have been in the US for 90 days or less. Had all this happened in June we'd be much farther along. Learning to play together on the fly would be tall order for any coach. Hopefully we get this figured out by Christmas.

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    The only thing I expected from this team was gradual improvement from November to March.

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    The only thing I expected from this team was gradual improvement from November to March.
    I expect our $4M a year coach to get us to the sweet 16 every year.

    I get that Miller is playing with a whole new hand. But, he could have cut some dead weight LAST YEAR (Tandy, Miles, Edwards) and set himself up with a little more continuity on the roster. We knew that Boum and Kunkel were done. Jones was likely headed to the NBA. Hunge, Free and Hunter had all played 4 years and frankly 2 of them returning was a surprise to me.

    I just dont want the excuses about too many new players. Not ever playing together didnt cause Abou to foul out twice this year in 10 minutes or less. Not playing together didnt casue us to go 18-31 (58%) at the line in a 3 point loss to Washington.

    We're middle of the road on a lot of team stats, but 16th in the country in assists per game. We're holding teams to 38.8% shooting overall (ranked 40), 27% from 3 (ranked 32). Our defensive rebounding is 39th, and opponents offensive rebounding is 288th.

    In what way will the passage of time allow us to get better that will show up in the team stats?

    I'm not seeing the "killer" yet on this roster. If one emerges, we can get this back on track. Need an uptick in 3pt shooting percentgage and less interior fouls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHettel View Post
    I expect our $4M a year coach to get us to the sweet 16 every year.

    I get that Miller is playing with a whole new hand. But, he could have cut some dead weight LAST YEAR (Tandy, Miles, Edwards) and set himself up with a little more continuity on the roster. We knew that Boum and Kunkel were done. Jones was likely headed to the NBA. Hunge, Free and Hunter had all played 4 years and frankly 2 of them returning was a surprise to me.

    I just dont want the excuses about too many new players. Not ever playing together didnt cause Abou to foul out twice this year in 10 minutes or less. Not playing together didnt casue us to go 18-31 (58%) at the line in a 3 point loss to Washington.

    We're middle of the road on a lot of team stats, but 16th in the country in assists per game. We're holding teams to 38.8% shooting overall (ranked 40), 27% from 3 (ranked 32). Our defensive rebounding is 39th, and opponents offensive rebounding is 288th.

    In what way will the passage of time allow us to get better that will show up in the team stats?

    I'm not seeing the "killer" yet on this roster. If one emerges, we can get this back on track. Need an uptick in 3pt shooting percentgage and less interior fouls.
    Here is some context of your expectations of getting to the Sweet Sixteen every year.

    CURRENT STREAKS
    Gonzaga 8 years - 2015..2023
    Houston 4 years - 2019..2023
    Arkansas 3 years - 2021..2023
    UCLA 3 years - 2021..2023
    Miami (FL) 2 years - 2022..2023
    Alabama 1 year - 2023
    Connecticut 1 year - 2023
    Creighton 1 year - 2023
    Florida Atlantic 1 year - 2023
    Kansas State 1 year - 2023
    Michigan State 1 year - 2023
    Princeton 1 year - 2023
    San Diego State 1 year - 2023
    Tennessee 1 year - 2023
    Texas 1 year - 2023
    Xavier 1 year - 2023

    Here's a link to all-time streaks

    https://mcubed.net/ncaab/strkr16c.sh...pand_article=1
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