Politics Thread

**GoMuskies** · 08-04-2023, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Masterofreality

This is a lengthy article but well worth reading.
No, it’s not from Fox, or Daily Caller or a right wing publication. It’s from Tablet magazine
The myth that is Barack Obama and how it has, and continues to divide the country.
Obama continues to be the Puppetmaster behind Biden and a rampant Anti-Semite. Hence his focus on the “Iran Deal”
Be aware:

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/a...nterview-obama

Interesting read. Made a short flight go by quickly this morning! The part about Clarence Thomas and the Supreme Court near the end was particularly interesting.

Smails · 08-04-2023, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by paulxu

Interesting article.
I certainly don't see Obama as a "rampant AntiSemite" from the article, but it is reminiscent of Eisenhower's jeep driver and Kennedy's liaisons like Marilyn Monroe. Stuff presidents might have wished they were a little wiser in earlier (or later) days.
Sort of wants us to believe Obama is a kind of puppet master. Hard to imagine.

Why is it hard to imagine? Obama spent 8 years in the White House..you don't get to do that unless you are able to manipulate and control people, narratives and outcomes. Just because he comes off as a nice guy..cool dude, doesn't mean he's not a master operator.

**paulxu** · 08-04-2023, 09:45 AM

I suppose. But Biden spent years in the Senate and time as VP.
Don't see him as the type to have strings pulled.
Would like to have the wisdom in the R's that George H. displayed and the Senate with Nixon.
That's what's really changed.

**GoMuskies** · 08-04-2023, 09:49 AM

Biden is a dementia patient. Perhaps true of 15 years ago Joe.

**bobbiemcgee** · 08-04-2023, 10:01 AM

Trump's father died of dementia. Maybe reason he can't understand he lost.Lol

**paulxu** · 08-04-2023, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Biden is a dementia patient. Perhaps true of 15 years ago Joe.

Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee

Trump's father died of dementia. Maybe reason he can't understand he lost.Lol

Our political parties are not serving us well by failing to promote and offer younger, qualified candidates for office.

**Masterofreality** · 08-04-2023, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by paulxu

Sort of wants us to believe Obama is a kind of puppet master. Hard to imagine.

Why? Why hasn’t he moved out of DC like the other Prezzes? Except to a rich ass community for the summer?
Resurrecting the Iran deal smacks of OBama all over.

**Masterofreality** · 08-04-2023, 11:57 AM

Obama- the guy who allegedly cares about others-but only if they’re rich and helpful.
The ultimate charlatan.

“What do the Obamas and their circle have in common with each other? They are Ivy League people, who ran away from whatever they came from in order to become members of the credentialed elites, whose loyalty is to the system that gives them prestige—or rather, gives prestige to their degrees, of which they are the holders. Once they pair off and reproduce under the seal of Harvard or Yale, they may find it seemly to donate money to an NGO that offers microloans to female entrepreneurs in Pakistan. So why should Obama, the ultimate winner, carry on the charade that he’s part of a community, whatever that means, with these people? He’s happy to go on NPR and talk about meaning or Marilynne Robinson novels or whatever, to make the wine moms identify with him, so he can put one over on them. Just don’t ask him to visit the hospital when you get cancer, because he’ll be hanging out on someone’s yacht, with the other winners.

But in Springfield, there’s a real community of Illinois politicos. There’s a guy named Matt Jones who was very helpful to Barack, who in fact came down with some incredibly rare cancer about two, three years ago. And the person who was the centerpiece of this was a guy who was a Senate judiciary staffer named Pete Baroni, a really wonderful man. So, Pete organized some crowdfunding thing for Matt. And so, you could see everybody in Springfield, Democratic and Republican, had donated to Matt Jones.

And then very early on in COVID, about six, eight weeks into COVID, the woman who was finance director on Barack’s Senate primary run, Claire Serdiuk, up and died at age 50, leaving behind a 4-year-old. And when I went to the GoFundMe page for Claire, you could see everybody who’d worked on the Obama primary campaign, and then Claire went to SEIU [Service Employees International Union], and the folks at SEIU all donated. Anybody whom I’ve interviewed in that situation, I would donate to, always have.

But Barack has no interest in any of that. It’s just not there.”