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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    Well, good thing you're not in charge then. What you just wrote is chilling and you may not realize it.
    What’s chilling is allowing someone to purchase an ar-15 that six days later shoot their former employees. Spare me the bullshit point you are trying to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    What’s chilling is allowing someone to purchase an ar-15 that six days later shoot their former employees. Spare me the bullshit point you are trying to make.
    Spare me your emotional argument.

    I get it. Something bad happened that is scary so SOMETHING must be done so we all feel in control. Happens all the time. Unfortunately we end up with bad laws because of this kind of thinking.

    Kind of like, "never let a good crisis go to waste" :).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    Spare me your emotional argument.

    I get it. Something bad happened that is scary so SOMETHING must be done so we all feel in control. Happens all the time. Unfortunately we end up with bad laws because of this kind of thinking.

    Kind of like, "never let a good crisis go to waste" :).
    Can you give us some examples of those bad laws please. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by 94GRAD View Post
    Can you give us some examples of those bad laws please. Thanks
    The Patriot Act.
    The ACA
    The Internment of the Japanese (Exec Order)
    Prohibition
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    The Patriot Act.
    The ACA
    The Internment of the Japanese (Exec Order)
    Prohibition
    That is a pretty good list to answer!! Thumbs up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    Spare me your emotional argument.

    I get it. Something bad happened that is scary so SOMETHING must be done so we all feel in control. Happens all the time. Unfortunately we end up with bad laws because of this kind of thinking.

    Kind of like, "never let a good crisis go to waste" :).
    It’s not an emotional argument. An emotional argument is holding on to your gun right like you want to fuck it.

    It’s an argument for common sense legislation that has nothing to do about “control,” it is to mitigate as much risk as possible. It happens all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    It’s not an emotional argument. An emotional argument is holding on to your gun right like you want to fuck it.

    It’s an argument for common sense legislation that has nothing to do about “control,” it is to mitigate as much risk as possible. It happens all the time.
    I do not wish to fornicate with my Rights. Not even sure how that would work. Is there a seminar?

    Hmmm, "common sense" legislation....Where have I heard that before? Oh, yeah in the arguments (not literally the words "common sense" but I think you get it) for the laws listed above.

    Edit: Common sense legislation is code for, "I want it but I know it will never pass so I'll try to make my nonsensical argument sound smarter".

    You're going to have to repeal the 2nd Amendment first to get what you're after. Then you're going to run into issues at the State level as many State Constitutions have a similar Right laid out in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    I do not wish to fornicate with my Rights. Not even sure how that would work. Is there a seminar?

    Hmmm, "common sense" legislation....Where have I heard that before? Oh, yeah in the arguments (not literally the words "common sense" but I think you get it) for the laws listed above.

    Edit: Common sense legislation is code for, "I want it but I know it will never pass so I'll try to make my nonsensical argument sound smarter".
    Ok…. What are concussions, brew? What are multiple concussions to the point where in high school one wears a helmet to play basketball? What is cte?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    Ok…. What are concussions, brew? What are multiple concussions to the point where in high school one wears a helmet to play basketball? What is cte?
    I'm fully aware of both. I know many people who have had them and do not have nor will develop CTE. Another non starter Ville.

    You're looking for a reason why this person shouldn't have had a gun. Problem is you're not going to find one. The murderer killed people. That's the answer.

    I do not want to live in your "Minority Report" society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    Before I waste my time how does the article quantify a "mass shooting"?

    Technically you can however you break the law if a riot/panic happens as a result. Yelling fire isn't limited by the law however what may occur as a result is. Just like owning an gun isn't but using it illegally is. You're example is based on the consequence of irresponsibly exercising your Right not the the Right to do it.
    I let you link to the article if you really care how they defined mass shootings that went down between '94 and '04, and now are on the rise.
    You are correct about "fire" in a theater, not prohibited but the consequences can be prosecuted.
    There are however actual limitations on "free speech." Disseminating child pornography is but one example.
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