2023 College Basketball Transfer Portal

[Xville]

Wyoming transfer Graham Ike on X campus today.
Ike is a 6-foot-9, 255-pound center who averaged 19.5 points, 9.6 rebounds, and 1.3 assists for the Cowboys during the 2021-22 season.
A leg injury caused him to miss all of this season
He has three years of eligibility remaining.

I want him badly. This is a guy you nil big time for. He has big East material written all over him

[Xville]

NCAA Principles….

Bylaw 2.10 The Principle of Competitive Equity.[*] The structure and programs of the Association and the activities of its members shall promote opportunity for equity in competition to ensure that individual student-athletes and institutions will not be prevented unfairly from achieving the benefits inherent in participation in intercollegiate athletics.

None of that is about parity

[D-West & PO-Z]

I personally could very easily get to a point where my fandom for college sports could waiver. Where I could be driven away from watching on TV and/or in person. I do not want professionals representing a college. But I’m realistic enough to know that my opinion is very possibly that of the minority. So take it for what it’s worth. I’m not trying to convert anyone to my way of thinking and therefore won’t offer up reasons why one should. We all have to make our decisions for ourselves. I will only offer up this for your consideration….

The NFL is by far the most popular sports organization in the US, perhaps even the world. Some years ago the owners realized that having just a handful of the same teams capable of winning the championship was not good for business. It would turn off more fans than it would bring in. So they, in cooperation with the players Union, have instituted several rules that are designed to “even the playing field” and make sure that all teams have an equal opportunity to compete with each other. Some may call that socialism or communism, but I call it smart business. No one can deny the success of the NFL. No NFL team loses money.

On the other hand you have Major League Baseball, once our “national pastime” and the most popular leisure activity in the country. They have gone the opposite route. Big market teams with big bucks dominate. Rosters change yearly now, where before the players became synonymous with a city or a franchise. The players were part of the community. Realistically only a few franchises have a chance of winning. And what has happened? Attendance across the league is down. TV viewership is down. Fan interest is down. Teams are actually losing money.

IMHO…..the NCAA and all of the colleges need to look at MLB closely and do whatever they can to not repeat their mistakes. If they don’t get some kind of handle on this NIL system, and the money that is out there for a select few colleges and not others, the casual fans are going to lose interest, and the colleges are going to lose fans. And when that happens in a large scale way, what then?

Interesting points but I don't think I agree with all of them.

1. 11 different MLB teams have won the last 15 World Series. So more than a few teams are capable of winning. That is over 1/3rd of the teams in MLB winning the last 15 years.

2. The NFL was ahead of its time. Wellington Mara (former owner of the Giants) was the one instrumental in instituting revenue sharing throughout the league to keep all teams competitive. His nickname was "The Duke". Because of his efforts every football used has "The Duke" on it. So I agree it has worked for the NFL. I think baseball is because of other issues, not because only a handful of teams can win. I am excited about some of the rule changes happening in baseball this year.

3. I think the opposite of what you are saying is true in college sports. Most casual fans aren't a big time fan of any one school. They tune in to watch the big boys. I can't tell you how many opinions I have read and heard the last few days on radio, in print, about how no blue bloods in the Final 4 is going to be awful for the Final 4 and no one is going to be interested or tune in. I think the same hold true to some extent for football. People will tune in to see Bama vs Ohio State in the CFP but couldn't care less about TCU vs. Washington.

[Xville]

Interesting points but I don't think I agree with all of them.

1. 11 different MLB teams have won the last 15 World Series. So more than a few teams are capable of winning. That is over 1/3rd of the teams in MLB winning the last 15 years.

2. The NFL was ahead of its time. Wellington Mara (former owner of the Giants) was the one instrumental in instituting revenue sharing throughout the league to keep all teams competitive. His nickname was "The Duke". Because of his efforts every football used has "The Duke" on it. So I agree it has worked for the NFL. I think baseball is because of other issues, not because only a handful of teams can win. I am excited about some of the rule changes happening in baseball this year.

3. I think the opposite of what you are saying is true in college sports. Most casual fans aren't a big time fan of any one school. They tune in to watch the big boys. I can't tell you how many opinions I have read and heard the last few days on radio, in print, about how no blue bloods in the Final 4 is going to be awful for the Final 4 and no one is going to be interested or tune in. I think the same hold true to some extent for football. People will tune in to see Bama vs Ohio State in the CFP but couldn't care less about TCU vs. Washington.

Yep.. check out the ratings for the final four this year. I’m willing to bet they will be the lowest in quite some time. The ratings have been pretty bad this tourney and it’s because the big boys aren’t there outside of uconn. Everyone likes seeing Princeton and fau win their first game, then it’s ok let’s get to the big boys.

[MHettel]

Wyoming transfer Graham Ike on X campus today.
Ike is a 6-foot-9, 255-pound center who averaged 19.5 points, 9.6 rebounds, and 1.3 assists for the Cowboys during the 2021-22 season.
A leg injury caused him to miss all of this season
He has three years of eligibility remaining.

yes, please!

[MHettel]

Bylaw 2.9….Amateurism

2.9 The Principle of Amateurism.[*] Student-athletes shall be amateurs in an intercollegiate sport, and their participation should be motivated primarily by education and by the physical, mental and social benefits to be derived. Student participation in intercollegiate athletics is an avocation, and student-athletes should be protected from exploitation by professional and commercial enterprises.

Hogwash!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wyoming transfer Graham Ike on X campus today.
Ike is a 6-foot-9, 255-pound center who averaged 19.5 points, 9.6 rebounds, and 1.3 assists for the Cowboys during the 2021-22 season.
A leg injury caused him to miss all of this season
He has three years of eligibility remaining.

Bringing in some beef!

[XUGRAD80]

Hogwash!

Maybe…..but it IS part of the NCAA rule book.

[MHettel]

Maybe…..but it IS part of the NCAA rule book.

yeah, the part that is ignored in it's entirety.

[Jumpin_Jamal_Forever]

Yes by all means pick the worst basketball schools in all the power conferences to make your point.

What issue do you have with the players having more power to make choices that benefit them?

Seems we have a lot of guys on this board who wish they were good enough to be star college athletes but because they weren't think everyone who is should just be happy they are, shut up, know their place, and not ask for anything more. Kinda weird.

The principle of Occam's Razor states the simplest answer is often the best. So, when someone says they feel less connected to a college team with high turnover and they believe the NIL is contributing to said level of turnover, well, that's a pretty simple answer. And, for me, one that is quite believable. That people disagree with you because they were not star college athletes doesn't, to me, seem like a well-considered thesis. It seems like it is intended as more of insult than an argument. Nor do I find it weird that others on this board may not share my opinion. One of the great benefits to this board, beyond sharing of information, is sharing of opinions. I am not bothered that you disagree with me nor will I attack you or insult you simply because you hold a different view.

A fundamental premise of your argument seems to be that collegiate athletes are victims and coaches, administrations and, yes, even fans, like me, are oppressors. If that is accurate, I don't buy that premise. But that isn't to say that I don't also agree with some facets of NIL. I just think it appears to quickly be getting out of hand and I worry that I may lose the current connection with Xavier basketball.

I don't believe athletes should "know their place" or "shut up and not ask for anything". That's an old Obama ploy called the Straw Man Argument. State the other guy's argument in a negative, demeaning and inaccurate way----so exaggerated and misstated that its easily knocked down. I suppose we are inching closer to the nuclear argument that since many (if not most) college basketball players are African American, those of us questioning NIL are racist. Is that next?