Politics Thread

[XU_Lou]

Actually, there's quite a bit known...


#1) Landmark Study Vindicates Everyone Who Touted Natural Immunity to COVID-19

Of course Fauci and the CDC, et al, knew this was true from day 1. This is virology 101. They used the lie that natural immunity for Covid doesn't exist as one of the justifications for implementing mandatory masks, lockdowns and vaccines. This study simply confirms common sense and our basic understanding of virology, and thus destroys the predicate for implementing universal masks, lockdowns and vaccines.

Moreover, even if you got a covid vaccine, you still stand as much of chance of getting Covid (after protection wanes in a couple of months), and therefore Long-Covid, as those who didn't get the vax.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/02...vid-19-n704926

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...465-5/fulltext



#2) This is from Dr. Leana Wen, one of the Covid lockdown fanatics on CNN. This was published in the WAPO:

"Two infectious-disease experts I spoke with believe that the number of deaths attributed to covid is far greater than the actual number of people dying from covid. Robin Dretler, an attending physician at Emory Decatur Hospital and the former president of Georgia’s chapter of Infectious Diseases Society of America, estimates that at his hospital, 90 percent of patients diagnosed with covid are actually in the hospital for some other illness."

This isn't anything new. This was well documented ad nauseam on the other thread. One only has to go to the CDC website to see the data for themselves. This completely destroys the predicate for implementing mandatory masks, lockdowns and vaccines.

https://archive.is/Qjvyy#selection-877.0-881.268



#3) 1 in 45,000 - that was the (pre-vaccine) Covid death risk for people under 50 - including people with severe comorbidities.

Covid doesn't present any meaningful danger to healthy individuals below the age of 50 - or even 60. Again, this isn't new. In fact, it was documented fairly early during the pandemic. This has been confirmed by many other studies, as well as CDC data itself, and was also well documented ad nauseam on the other thread. Again, this completely destroys the predicate for implementing mandatory masks, lockdowns and vaccines.

Hell, a 42-year-old male has a higher chance of dying from a brain aneurysm or a heart attack as a result of arguing with anonymous posters on a BB board than he does from Covid.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/1-in-45000

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....09.23285703v1

[XU_Lou]

No comment needed.....


From the NY Times yesterday:

The Mask Mandates Did Nothing. Will Any Lessons Be Learned?

The most rigorous and comprehensive analysis of scientific studies conducted on the efficacy of masks for reducing the spread of respiratory illnesses — including Covid-19 — was published late last month. Its conclusions, said Tom Jefferson, the Oxford epidemiologist who is its lead author, were unambiguous.

“There is just no evidence that they” — masks — “make any difference,” he told the journalist Maryanne Demasi. “Full stop.”

But, wait, hold on. What about N-95 masks, as opposed to lower-quality surgical or cloth masks?

“Makes no difference — none of it,” said Jefferson.

What about the studies that initially persuaded policymakers to impose mask mandates?

“They were convinced by non-randomized studies, flawed observational studies.”


Those skeptics who were furiously mocked as cranks and occasionally censored as “misinformers” for opposing mandates were right.


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/21/o...e=articleShare


Okay, I will comment: The house of cards that Fauci, the CDC, Democrats and the media built has completely crashed. NOTHING about the official narrative was true. NOTHING!!

[Xville]

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/fut...dies-infection

[noteggs]

What did we learn over the 3 years with covid? Keep politics out of medicine.

You had one administration look foolish by having the president interjecting opinion in the medical covid pressers. While another administration blaming the unvaccinated for the disease.

Also we saw one of the most premier medical associations in the CDC, look like an arm to special interests. Finally, we censored differing opinions from experts. What the hell happened to the science I grew up with!

Whether or not we agree on masking, it did give some confidence to go out and live a somewhat healthy lifestyle vs staying isolated at home. On the other hand, it gave the government way too much power from very flimsy data.

What’s the chances we learned anything moving forward from this cluster f? One could hope for better readiness and response. But I doubt it.

[bobbiemcgee]

Hope this doesn't happen but If my options are Biden or Trump yes I'd vote for trump. Guess that makes me an election denier. Bobbie isn't playing with a full deck

Yes it does. Your playing a full deck of jokers.

[Smails]

Yes it does. Your playing a full deck of jokers.

So anyone who votes for Trump in the next election over Biden is an election denier? Explain to me how that works...I can't wait

[GoMuskies]

If it's Trump v. Biden, I might vote Trump if there is no decent third option. There's zero chance I'll vote for Trump in a primary (and since we have a caucus system that's a pain in the ass I probably won't vote at all...but if I didn't it definitely would not be for Trump).

[GoMuskies]

Also, I have no doubt Trump lost the 2020 election fair and square.

[xuphan]

If it's Trump v. Biden, I might vote Trump if there is no decent third option. There's zero chance I'll vote for Trump in a primary (and since we have a caucus system that's a pain in the ass I probably won't vote at all...but if I didn't it definitely would not be for Trump).

The sad part is that it very well could be Trump vs Biden. Do we need a max age limit to run for president? You have to be at least 35 to run maybe there should be an age limit of 60 or less to run. If you are older than 60, you are too old to run.

[Masterofreality]

Has anybody noticed how badly this Dem push to put “gender diversity” rather than actual qualifications in public officials has gone?
-Mayor Pete is an awful Transportation Secretary
-Karine Jean Pierre is the worst WH Press Secretary ever in my life. (To be fair, she doesn’t have much to work with)
-“Rachel” Levine is an abject joke as a Health Secretary.
-Sam Brinson (fired) is a felon kleptomaniac.

Great job team!!