Politics Thread

**Masterofreality** · 12-15-2022, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

Of course I never said Salame broke the law like SBF is alleged to have done. Is that "gaslighting"?
I never said he wasn't free to contribute to whatever party he wanted. Is that "gaslighting"?

I quoted a noted publication, Business Insider, that seemed to indicate it. Yes, I understand he was Co-CEO and Chairman at FTX.
And he is not listed as a founder of FTX.
And his contributions seem to be above board. He also appears to be the one who blew the whistle on SBF.

But,

YOU were the one gaslighting numerous times that SBF’s organization was also giving money to Republicans trying to drag the other party in the mud with your slimy one.
Gaslighting and lying are what you do best in attempted defense.
You should take the rest of this thread off. Everyone sees what you’re trying to do.

**paulxu** · 12-15-2022, 02:27 PM

Are you just upset the other guy gave to Republicans? And what's with all the gaslighting nonsense. Can't we have a reasonable discussion?

As we’ve learned, FTX misappropriated customer deposits by commingling them with its associated hedge fund Alameda Research, which engaged in risky trading that exposed those customer funds to massive losses. As Ray testified Tuesday, Alameda and FTX “really operated as one company,” with “no internal controls and no separateness whatsoever.”

XU_Lou · 12-15-2022, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

Are you just upset the other guy gave to Republicans? And what's with all the gaslighting nonsense. Can't we have a reasonable discussion?

The ONLY thing that matters in this case as far as your line of reasoning is concerned is who was involved in the swindling of investors money, and who else knew about it and did nothing. If a bunch of execs gave money to Rs, but were not involved in the corruption, then your point is totally and completely moot.

**X-band '01** · 12-15-2022, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by GoMuskies

I need to get my mother one of these Trump digital trading cards for Christmas! That would really spice up the holidays! LOL

Was that the so-called major announcement? Orange Messiah merchandise?

**Masterofreality** · 12-15-2022, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

Are you just upset the other guy gave to Republicans? And what's with all the gaslighting nonsense. Can't we have a reasonable discussion?

It is incredible how thick, or just stubbornly blue glossed you are.
Salame was an executive with FTX Digital Markets, not FTX main nor Alameda. FTX Digital Markets is a subsidiary and Salame is not accused of involvement with fraud. He has not been charged with any fraud or any campaign finance violations. The money he donated, as YOUR OWN BIASED ARTICLE points out, was from his PERSONAL net worth, not the company. The guy can donate to whoever he likes from his own bankroll. SBF gave millions to Democrats with ill gotten fraudulently collected money. Kind of a big difference.
Yeah. Big time gaslighting and attempted diversion. When your objective is to dishonestly try to smear the other side and drag it down into your sides messy cesspool, NO. There is no “Reasonable Discussion” to be had because your premise is patently false. And proven so by your repeated attempt to call Salame a “co founder”.
Stop the Bullshit Paul. You are embarrassing your degree.

**paulxu** · 12-15-2022, 06:47 PM

Can you find one place where I said Salame was charged with anything? Try it.
I misread the Business Insider article. I said that I did.
What is your point in all of this. Should we be focused on Meadows and all the Republicans who tried to overthrow an election?
How about a sitting US congressman who wanted Trump to declare martial law like some banana republic? Should we focus on that?

Just stop with all the personal attacks. You are embarrassing your degree.

**Masterofreality** · 12-15-2022, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

Can you find one place where I said Salame was charged with anything? Try it.
I misread the Business Insider article. I said that I did.
What is your point in all of this. Should we be focused on Meadows and all the Republicans who tried to overthrow an election?
How about a sitting US congressman who wanted Trump to declare martial law like some banana republic? Should we focus on that?

Just stop with all the personal attacks. You are embarrassing your degree.

For the last time. STOP DEFERRING. What you classify as “Personal Attacks” are merely pointing out your lies- in this specific case-about FTX and SBF. The typical liberal playbook that when a Lib is called out for their lies, they claim that it’s personal and “unsafe”. Malarkey
Yes. I attack false statements, and will continue to when warranted.

You “misread” the Insider Article, obviously on purpose…ostensibly to slam Republicans for accepting campaign donations exactly like Major Democrats did from SBF- who did it with fraudulently received monies in a scandalous manner. EXCEPT that the donations that were given to Republicans by Salame- who you were pointing to in the article- did those donations from personal funds, apparently legitimately obtained.
Your thinly veiled attempt to tie Republicans to fraudulent received contributions has failed- spectacularly.
My point is that you are the most biased, unfair and slippery political commentator I have ever seen with an inability to see anything of value outside of your radical Leftist view, plus you go WAAAAY out of your way to point out anything negative toward Republicans while defending the indefensible on the Democratic side. THEN you cry because you can’t have “Reasonable Discussion”.
It is impossible to have a “reasonable discussion” with someone who defends (either by statement or silence) for the following disgraces pushed and supported by your radical Democratic Party:
- Record Inflation caused by unneeded excess Government spending
- Crippling of the domestic energy industry
- A terribly mismanaged withdrawal from Afghanistan
- Propping up a clearly mentally impaired President who is controlled by strings from Background Puppeteers.
- The ruining if public education by woke teachers and administrators via false virtue signals like CRT, the 1619 Project and Biological Gender revisionists.
- The rampant anti Semitism expressed by Democrat “Squad” members like Ilan Ohmar & AOC.
- The corruption and suspicious ties between Hunter & Joe Biden with China, plus Hunters $80,000 payments from Burisma over ???

Stop with what are you think are such low key smooth attacks on any Republican over anything , Paul while ignoring the above. You are so transparent. (Advice, not an attack)
Yes, you’ve embarrassed your Xavier degree.

XU_Lou · 12-15-2022, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Masterofreality

For the last time. STOP DEFERRING. What you classify as “Personal Attacks” are merely pointing out your lies- in this specific case-about FTX and SBF. The typical liberal playbook that when a Lib is called out for their lies, they claim that it’s personal and “unsafe”. Malarkey
Yes. I attack false statements, and will continue to when warranted.

You “misread” the Insider Article, obviously on purpose…ostensibly to slam Republicans for accepting campaign donations exactly like Major Democrats did from SBF- who did it with fraudulently received monies in a scandalous manner. EXCEPT that the donations that were given to Republicans by Salame- who you were pointing to in the article- did those donations from personal funds, apparently legitimately obtained.
Your thinly veiled attempt to tie Republicans to fraudulent received contributions has failed- spectacularly.
My point is that you are the most biased, unfair and slippery political commentator I have ever seen with an inability to see anything of value outside of your radical Leftist view, plus you go WAAAAY out of your way to point out anything negative toward Republicans while defending the indefensible on the Democratic side. THEN you cry because you can’t have “Reasonable Discussion”.
It is impossible to have a “reasonable discussion” with someone who defends (either by statement or silence) for the following disgraces pushed and supported by your radical Democratic Party:
- Record Inflation caused by unneeded excess Government spending
- Crippling of the domestic energy industry
- A terribly mismanaged withdrawal from Afghanistan
- Propping up a clearly mentally impaired President who is controlled by strings from Background Puppeteers.
- The ruining if public education by woke teachers and administrators via false virtue signals like CRT, the 1619 Project and Biological Gender revisionists.
- The rampant anti Semitism expressed by Democrat “Squad” members like Ilan Ohmar & AOC.
- The corruption and suspicious ties between Hunter & Joe Biden with China, plus Hunters $80,000 payments from Burisma over ???

Stop with what are you think are such low key smooth attacks on any Republican over anything , Paul while ignoring the above. You are so transparent. (Advice, not an attack)
Yes, you’ve embarrassed your Xavier degree.

Beautifully put. I was trying to figure out his style, and I think you just nailed it here. King Deflection of SC.