Politics Thread

[paulxu]

Forbes didn't say "last year." Forbes said "2020."

Why not just quote them correctly?

[XU_Lou]

Does anyone else think this Paul Pelosi incident is getting just a little weird? Anyone else feel like this is about to get swept under the rug?

Some questions that have arisen:

1a) This is from the Police dispatch audio recording to Paul Pelosi's home:

"RP (reporting person) stated there's a male in the home and that he's going to wait for his wife. RP stated that he doesn't know who the male is but he advised that his name is David and that he is a friend.”

* So this 42 y.o. guy was a friend of 82 y.o. Paul Pelosi

* Was it Pelosi or the RP who was going to wait for his wife? Why?

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/sta...avid-depape%2F

https://thelibertydaily.com/how-clos...-david-depape/


1b) Other reports say that it was Pelosi who made the call. If so, then this statement makes no sense: "RP stated that he doesn't know who the male is but he advised that his name is David and that he is a friend.” The statement would make much more sense if it came from the third person (see #5).

* If this was a true house invasion, how was he able to make the call, given that he knew who it was? This seemingly indicates that contact between the two had already been made prior to the call.

* Again, why did he state that "he's going to wait for his wife"? He surely knew that she was on the other side of the country.

* On a related note, why did the intruder also want to know, "Where is Nancy? Where is Nancy?"

https://www.axios.com/2022/10/29/pau...11-home-attack

https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco...home-invasion/


2) Why was this friend, David Depape, in his underwear - at 2 a.m. ?


3) If he's a friend, why did he break into the house?


4) The Pelosi home is supposedly surrounded by a security fence or wall of some type. You would assume they have much more security measures in place as well. So, how did he break-in, if indeed he did?


5) "Officers arrived at the house, knocked on the front door and were let inside by an unknown person. They discovered DePape and Pelosi struggling for a hammer, and after they instructed them to drop the weapon".

* Again, who is this third person? And why didn't he try to help the 82 y.o. Pelosi?

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/1...ional-00064098

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/...us-new-detail/


6) Speaking of being swept under the rug, how is it possible that the passenger airbag went off in Pelosi's car without a passenger during his accident a few months ago? Are these two stories possibly related?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/californi...losi-dui-video



These comments are so true for almost anything that goes on in national politics anymore:

"If journalists for one reason or another aren't interested in the basics of journalism, like identifying an unknown person in the midst of a deadly attack, then they have little standing to complain when conspiracies run wild on social media."

"I guess I have other basic questions. How did the guy approach the house before getting in? Did they recover a vehicle? Did he just walk from the Tenderloin to the residence in his underwear (plausible in SF). Journalism 101 5Ws"

[paulxu]

Maybe Pelosi took the hammer and beat himself over the head.

Or maybe this deranged fellow...

Last year, David DePape posted links on his Facebook page to multiple videos produced by My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell falsely alleging that the 2020 election was stolen. Other posts included transphobic images and linked to websites claiming Covid vaccines were deadly. “The death rates being promoted are what ever ‘THEY’ want to be promoted as the death rate,” one post read

...posts here on Xavierhoops. Worth looking into.

[Masterofreality]

Forbes didn't say "last year." Forbes said "2020."

Why not just quote them correctly?

Because the article was about profits and losses.
You are the king of irrelevant deferral into crap that means zero in attempts to defend with poorly constructed “gotchas”.
What is relevant is YOUR President has completely screwed up the energy sector in the US and fueled massive inflation because of it.
Red Tsunami on the way. Don’t cry too much

[paulxu]

I'll try not to since it's generally what happens in mid-terms.
Your "last year" losses seemed to point to Biden's term, as if he was responsible.
He's not and neither was Trump in 2020.
The cash flows for these companies has been flush as the chart I referred to showed.
I'm guessing the "losses" might have been paper ones. Meanwhile, last year and this will be record years for the oil companies.
Maybe Biden should take credit for them?

[Masterofreality]

I'll try not to since it's generally what happens in mid-terms.
Your "last year" losses seemed to point to Biden's term, as if he was responsible.
He's not and neither was Trump in 2020.
The cash flows for these companies has been flush as the chart I referred to showed.
I'm guessing the "losses" might have been paper ones. Meanwhile, last year and this will be record years for the oil companies.
Maybe Biden should take credit for them?

Paul Guessing again.
You were the one who was pointing to “excess corporate profits” but you want to write off losses as “paper” by guessing.
I quoted an article because of your accusation of corporate profits above.
Losses are losses. Profits are what are needed to employ people and keep investors, that include normal people, investing in a company for further growth.
Another bad dance.

[paulxu]

Exxon noted a 2020 loss of $22 billion.
They paid out during that year $15 billion in dividends.
Let's say the 22 is a "real" number. Wonder why they didn't reduce it to 7 by stopping dividends?
All the companies had a positive cash flow for the year.

It was a great dance.

[Masterofreality]

Exxon noted a 2020 loss of $22 billion.
They paid out during that year $15 billion in dividends.
Let's say the 22 is a "real" number. Wonder why they didn't reduce it to 7 by stopping dividends?
All the companies had a positive cash flow for the year.

It was a great dance.

Paul blabbing about nothing relevant again.
The dance that you refuse to acknowledge us the disaster that Biden has done with the US energy policy.

And Tim Ryan isn’t even popular in his own Ohio hometown.
This isn’t your normal midterms. It’s an abject rejection of everything you espouse Paul.
Don’t cry too much.

https://freebeacon.com/democrats/is-...dont-think-so/

[paulxu]

It's a shame that the Forbes writer didn't research his own magazine before reporting on Exxon's supposed "loss" in 2020.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatsp...h=9b1e05c36980

[Xville]

My brother was a recent speaker of the house at the state level and is still quite involved at the state level but in the private sector. Anyways, he had a pac fundraiser here in kentucky this weekend for a buddy of his that is running for the state senate. It’s really interesting seeing how politics and elections actually work from the insider perspective.