Politics Thread

[Xuperman]

Look guys, these "politic" threads are completely worthless. There is ZERO effort from our leftist friends, to debate specific, AND, excruciatingly horrific reality, as it pertains the big city violence, border insanity and the complete destruction of BLUE integrity and respect.

So, until it happens here or ANYWHERE, with absolutely NO detailed support of these Obama Progressive Policies, the progressive left is nothing more than old style "snake oil" scam artists.

[paulxu]

Some good things from the current administration (as I see some here need this input; guessing their news feeds don't report them)

- IRA will provide health care coverage for more Americans, let Medicare negotiate drug prices, cap drug costs for seniors, make insulin affordable for all, and put a minimum tax on corporations experiencing record profits to help with the costs
- American Rescue plan put dollars into states and communities to help defray the impact of the pandemic and payroll support; unemployment falls below 3.7%
- CHIPS act to invest in American production of microchips to reduce dependency on foreign supply
- Pact Act for veterans exposed to toxic chemicals in war zones
- Infrastructure Law passed to pump needed funds into our roads and bridges, aging waters systems help, bring broadband to rural areas
- Strengthened our commitments with allies in NATO and joined them to work against Russian's invasion of Ukraine with valuable intelligence and military resources
- Working to rebuild the damaged State Department and correct some of the relations damaged by the prior administration
- Respecting our men and women in uniform again; correcting the denigration of the last administration who called them "losers", valuing their contribution and honoring their sacrifice

Just some of the things to recognize that have been accomplished by the current administration, in difficult times with very little support from the other side of the isle.
My guess is that the rising gas price will be a key in next month's election and Republicans will do well in the midterm. That generally happens in an off-year.
For our country's sake I, for one, hope that it doesn't and we can continue to do good things as noted above.

[Xuperman]

Some good things from the current administration (as I see some here need this input; guessing their news feeds don't report them)

- IRA will provide health care coverage for more Americans, let Medicare negotiate drug prices, cap drug costs for seniors, make insulin affordable for all, and put a minimum tax on corporations experiencing record profits to help with the costs
- American Rescue plan put dollars into states and communities to help defray the impact of the pandemic and payroll support; unemployment falls below 3.7%
- CHIPS act to invest in American production of microchips to reduce dependency on foreign supply
- Pact Act for veterans exposed to toxic chemicals in war zones
- Infrastructure Law passed to pump needed funds into our roads and bridges, aging waters systems help, bring broadband to rural areas
- Strengthened our commitments with allies in NATO and joined them to work against Russian's invasion of Ukraine with valuable intelligence and military resources
- Working to rebuild the damaged State Department and correct some of the relations damaged by the prior administration
- Respecting our men and women in uniform again; correcting the denigration of the last administration who called them "losers", valuing their contribution and honoring their sacrifice

Just some of the things to recognize that have been accomplished by the current administration, in difficult times with very little support from the other side of the isle.
My guess is that the rising gas price will be a key in next month's election and Republicans will do well in the midterm. That generally happens in an off-year.
For our country's sake I, for one, hope that it doesn't and we can continue to do good things as noted above.

Sooo?
That is the way you articulate support for BIDEN?

I think it doesn't address any of the TOP 5 pertaining domestic catastrophic issues.

[xuphan]

Sounds a little salty in here

Carry on

100’%.

[paulxu]

Sooo?
That is the way you articulate support for BIDEN?

I think it doesn't address any of the TOP 5 pertaining domestic catastrophic issues.

Here's why one can't "debate" you on these sorts of issues; it's because you deal solely in a biased perspective.
Here's one clear example, and that's all the time I'll spend on it. The accomplishments noted above speak for themselves (I notice you don't acknowledge them).

The rising crime rate is a real challenge, that soared during the pandemic years. There are multiple reasons, yet your focus is "big cities" controlled by Democrats...as if that is the singular reason.
While that is a real problem, the rising crime rate, your simplistic outlook evades proven reality;

Despite politicized claims that this rise was the result of criminal justice reform in liberal-leaning jurisdictions, murders rose roughly equally in cities run by Republicans and cities run by Democrats. So-called “red” states actually saw some of the highest murder rates of all. This data makes it difficult to pin recent trends on local policy shifts and reveals the basic inaccuracy of attempts to politicize a problem as complex as crime. Instead, the evidence points to broad national causes driving rising crime.

For example, Jacksonville, a city with a Republican mayor, had 128 more murders in 2020 than San Francisco, a city with a Democrat mayor, despite their comparable populations. In fact, the homicide rate in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco was half that of House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy’s Bakersfield, a city with a Republican mayor that overwhelmingly voted for Trump. Yet there is barely a whisper, let alone an outcry, over the stunning levels of murders in these and other places.

So while everyone agrees that our crime rate has risen, and stimulus dollars were allocated for police funding and mental health initiative, you want to go on about Democrats and their violent cities...overlooking the realities facing the whole country. Not a lot of point "debating" with you, is there.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...-violent-crime

https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-...murder-problem

[XU_Lou]

Here's why one can't "debate" you on these sorts of issues; it's because you deal solely in a biased perspective.
Here's one clear example, and that's all the time I'll spend on it. The accomplishments noted above speak for themselves (I notice you don't acknowledge them).

The rising crime rate is a real challenge, that soared during the pandemic years. There are multiple reasons, yet your focus is "big cities" controlled by Democrats...as if that is the singular reason.
While that is a real problem, the rising crime rate, your simplistic outlook evades proven reality;




So while everyone agrees that our crime rate has risen, and stimulus dollars were allocated for police funding and mental health initiative, you want to go on about Democrats and their violent cities...overlooking the realities facing the whole country. Not a lot of point "debating" with you, is there.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...-violent-crime

https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-...murder-problem

Paul, as usual. you're using faulty data - which leads to faulty conclusions....

FBI data from 2019. Top 100 Cities. Sort by total violent crime: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_crime_rate

* You have to go down to #13 Anchorage to find the first city run by a R. / Then #19 Tulsa

* Only 4 of the top 30 most violent cities are run by Republicans.


More recent murder data - there doesn't seem to be a single Republican run city on this list: https://www.foxnews.com/us/emerging-...ers-per-capita


Cities with the Highest Increase in Homicide Rates (again, not many Rs in the cities with the highest increases):
https://wallethub.com/edu/cities-homicide-rate/94070


You are precisely why we have this problem - you can't face the reality that it being caused by your vote, and the policies that were enabled by your vote.

[XU_Lou]

What's all this about that Nordstream 2 press conference. Is that somehow suppose to mean that we blew up Nordstream 1?

Shortly after that press conference, Russia invaded Ukraine.
AND, the Germans (not us) did not certify Nordstream 2 and bring it on line.
Entirely consistent with the German's comments in that press conference and Biden was indicating we were together on it.
Good lord.

It's like MOR going on about Tim Ryan and abortion.
I'd like to know if he thinks Herschel Walker should be arrested for murder for paying for his girlfriend to get an abortion.

More hypocrisy.

Paul - did you believe the government narrative about the Vietnam War back in the day?

* please, try to refrain from using words like abortion, Herschel Walker, or MOR in your reply.

[paulxu]

So, the data I linked reflected the recent rise in crime rates.
And Lou sites a 2019 study...before the recent rise.
And totally ignores the data pointing our crime rates in red states.
In the recent data he notes, murders are actually down in those cities from previous years, while total violent crime is up.

And...probably wonders why people don't want to debate him and his friends.

[Xuperman]

Actually Paul, today is a new day and you should be commended for posting what you did in support of Biden.

However, there are so many other highly corrosive issues that are seriously impacting all of us as we speak. Surely you understand why people on the right are basically fed up with this Dem controlled DC and their policies. Some of these things are so obviously damaging and dangerous, I simply can not understand why anyone is ok with it.

As far as the appalling crime rates, yes every major city is seeing spikes. But don't you see that Law enforcement moral has taken a huge hit, post George Floyd? It is painfully obvious that so many big city cops simply choose not to engage high risk criminal activity. Then to make matters MUCH worse, Progressive Judges and especially Progressive DAs appear to have lost their minds. No Bail policies and reduced sentencing guidelines has become commonplace. Heck, it seems to be trending that some of the far left DAs just refuse to prosecute certain crimes. Unfortunately Paul, this problem is far more evident in large Dem run cities. Do you disagree?

[XU_Lou]

So, the data I linked reflected the recent rise in crime rates.
And Lou sites a 2019 study...before the recent rise.
And totally ignores the data pointing our crime rates in red states.
In the recent data he notes, murders are actually down in those cities from previous years, while total violent crime is up.

And...probably wonders why people don't want to debate him and his friends.

Nice deflection - I guess you missed the links to the more recent data which tells the same story.

It's your side that is the problem - face the music...

Are you going to answer the question about Vietnam?