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    Quote Originally Posted by UCGRAD4X View Post
    That is an interesting point. It could be argued that instead of spouting talking points and salacious headlines, Fox should actually go down to the border and show what it really going on.

    At what point does information transform into propaganda? Context? Selective visuals? Juxtaposition?
    Yes, they should just find places where the activity is heaviest and roll live footage with very little commentary. It would be hard to criticize that as "selective visuals". Open each show with "on the border in real time" along with some kind of official number tracker on illegal crossings. They should interview as many border agents as possible. Would that not be an extremely effective way to inform the American people without being perceived as a political stunt?

    Your right, Fox News does a terrible job IMO. It's literally like a broken record, especially Hannity.....I can't watch it.

    This mass migration of illegals is the number 1 concern for me out of a really NASTY top 5. How can our tumbling economy and strained infrastructure continue to absorb millions more unskilled workers and their children? The number could actually approach 15 million on Biden's watch unless he somehow changes course. This is horrific folks.
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    Maybe a Cato Institute fellow can help you calm down:

    https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/ar...tion-debunked/

    Or else you could just go all Tucker:

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucke...b0ed021dfd2b09
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    Maybe a Cato Institute fellow can help you calm down:

    https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/ar...tion-debunked/

    Or else you could just go all Tucker:

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucke...b0ed021dfd2b09
    Geezus Paul, calm down?
    Are you actually trying to sugar coat what Biden is allowing down there?

    This situation requires no in depth analysis. NO political narrative. The approximate 5 million individuals that have crossed over illegally are going to cost the American taxpayers a shitload of money.....period.

    Let's say half of these new illegals are school aged children. That is nearly 15K per kid in new education cost alone.

    https://educationdata.org/public-edu...0per%20student.

    I get the impression that you think a good portion of the adults in this massive illegal migration, are educated professionals or skilled blue collar workers. The stone cold reality is that these people, in any large numbers, fit that description is highly unlikely. An extremely high percentage of these illegals, if they work, will fill positions that our spoiled population refuse. Now Paul, that puts them in perfect position to qualify for food stamps, cash assistance and MEDICAID! Use your Google machine Paul, and see what those social services cost the American taxpayer.

    I'll ask again Paul.....what do you think of Biden's border policy and what aspects are you in favor of?
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    I think Biden is doing a good job of executing the immigration laws as currently written, yes. The border control people have arrested a record number of people, and turned back a record number...notably using Title 42 which has now expired.

    I'm going to leave you to wallow in the fever swamp of what the last president started with his announcement of candidacy.
    It has only gotten worse with the demonization of people trying to build a better life here.
    You throw numbers of 5 million and 15 million around with no support. You rail about costs with no backup, when all the data suggests otherwise.

    I supply numbers from immigration control that disprove what you allege, and you just keep repeating talking points from the fevered right wing, from Rush years ago to Tucker today.
    You've got to have the "other" to hate and drive emotions.
    Just look at clips from Trumps rally in Youngstown where they are playing Q music and raising the Q salute while he rants on and on about the "others."
    So, you'll have to continue on your own. If you'd like to read a short speech to calm yourself down about immigration, here are Merrick Garland's words to new immigrants yesterday on the anniversary of the signing of our Constitution.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/a...e-and-delivers
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    Immigration as a top issue is a hard sale for me. Obviously an issue, it has been for decades, but I struggle to see how it has any impact on my life. I of course don’t live in a border state which helps.

    The source of the current journalism landscape is not that complicated. Only the biggest print journalism outlets have survived. This is inherently skewed toward outlets in densely populated areas which is inherently skewed Democratic. Print journalism still drives all other news mediums leading to an outsize influence of democratic views. Pay for your news.

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    This describes the border situation nicely Paul.

    https://freebeacon.com/?p=1636545

    Senior DHS official "Either the Biden Administration is uninformed or they're LYING. We CANNOT process the numbers flooding our borders and the administration's solution is scrambling for ways to let people in FASTER"

    A record 8,000 a day Paul? If just half are school aged children, at 15K per, that's $60,000,000 per day in new education costs alone. The aforementioned cost for the necessary social services and housing would just be off the chart. Where's that money coming from Paul?

    Saying "Biden is doing a good job of executing our immigration laws" is laughable. Immigration law #1.....YOU CAN'T come in ILLEGALLY! So spare us the asylum crap. The vast majority are simply law breakers rushing to cross Biden's welcome mat.

    I didn't think any hard working American taxpayer could view this disaster favorably...... congratulations Paul.
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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Caf View Post
    Immigration as a top issue is a hard sale for me. Obviously an issue, it has been for decades, but I struggle to see how it has any impact on my life. I of course don’t live in a border state which helps.

    The source of the current journalism landscape is not that complicated. Only the biggest print journalism outlets have survived. This is inherently skewed toward outlets in densely populated areas which is inherently skewed Democratic. Print journalism still drives all other news mediums leading to an outsize influence of democratic views. Pay for your news.
    I only view the mass migration of illegals as the top concern because it is happening in real time and apparently we'll deal with it until January 2025. We will have to borrow or print more money to pay for it, which only exacerbates my #2 concern..... Biden's recession.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuperman View Post
    I only view the mass migration of illegals as the top concern because it is happening in real time and apparently we'll deal with it until January 2025. We will have to borrow or print more money to pay for it, which only exacerbates my #2 concern..... Biden's recession.
    "Biden Recession" is another tough sell. I'd be happy to jump on "Powell's Recession", but this sucker is global.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Caf View Post
    "Biden Recession" is another tough sell. I'd be happy to jump on "Powell's Recession", but this sucker is global.
    No hard sell at all. We are officially in a recession and Biden is the POTUS. The Global economy tends to follow our situation since everything revolves around the American Dollar.....for now. Countries have started to refuse buying our T Bonds in very disturbing numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuperman View Post
    The Global economy tends to follow our situation since everything revolves around the American Dollar.....for now. Countries have started to refuse buying our T Bonds in very disturbing numbers.
    What foreign currency and government bonds should I buy then? Dollar is at a 20 year high, should be a great opportunity to sell it if that's true. What safe haven are these countries flocking to?

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