Politics Thread

**paulxu** · 08-29-2022, 03:30 PM

Not at all. But I can read reports of what's actually been released, as available on the District Court's website.
Like the attached, listing the items that were taken pursuant to the warrant, including classified documents:

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...nt/p5/a2141024

Strange Brew · 08-29-2022, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

Not at all. But I can read reports of what's actually been released, as available on the District Court's website.
Like the attached, listing the items that were taken pursuant to the warrant, including classified documents:

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...nt/p5/a2141024

So not the actual docs just what is said was there by the prosecution or warrant seekers...

**paulxu** · 08-29-2022, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

So not the actual docs just what is said was there by the prosecution or warrant seekers...

Or the filter team.
Yes, I'm making the assumption that when they marked something "secret" or "top secret" or "confidential" that they were not making it up.
That stuff has already been turned over to the services to determine the extent of damage to national security.
And the attorney for Trump Properties that was on site signed the receipt indicating those listings. Maybe she's in on the whole deal too?

Then again, perhaps it's all fake news.

XU_Lou · 08-29-2022, 03:59 PM

Umm, yea, what Catholic religion is ole crazy Nancy getting her doctrine from:

"But one word that pervade through all of the discussion was the word ‘justice.’ The fact that this is such an assault on women of color and women – lower income families is just sinful. It’s sinful. It's wrong that they would be able to say to women what they think women should be doing with their lives and their bodies. But it's sinful, the injustice of it all."

https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/82622-0

Strange Brew · 08-29-2022, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

Or the filter team.
Yes, I'm making the assumption that when they marked something "secret" or "top secret" or "confidential" that they were not making it up.
That stuff has already been turned over to the services to determine the extent of damage to national security.
And the attorney for Trump Properties that was on site signed the receipt indicating those listings. Maybe she's in on the whole deal too?

Then again, perhaps it's all fake news.

They're considering espionage. Let's see what the docs actually are and they DOJ will have to prove intent.

**Masterofreality** · 08-29-2022, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by paulxu

Or the filter team.
Yes, I'm making the assumption that when they marked something "secret" or "top secret" or "confidential" that they were not making it up.
That stuff has already been turned over to the services to determine the extent of damage to national security.
And the attorney for Trump Properties that was on site signed the receipt indicating those listings. Maybe she's in on the whole deal too?

Then again, perhaps it's all fake news.

Paul “assuming” and “perhapsing” is hilarious to create a 2+2 = 5 posit.
My guffawing is too loud for the wife to take.

**paulxu** · 08-29-2022, 06:58 PM

That explains it then.
Documents marked Top Secret were not really marked that way, but on the receipt that goes to the court it says that.

Trump's attorney is in on the scam; she signed off on the property receipt.

Caf · 08-30-2022, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by XU_Lou

Umm, yea, what Catholic religion is ole crazy Nancy getting her doctrine from:

"But one word that pervade through all of the discussion was the word Â‘justice.Â’ The fact that this is such an assault on women of color and women Â– lower income families is just sinful. ItÂ’s sinful. It's wrong that they would be able to say to women what they think women should be doing with their lives and their bodies. But it's sinful, the injustice of it all."

https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/82622-0

I wonder how many republicans have made their careers and won races based on their abortion stance? ThatÂ’s gone. The exact opposite is going to happen for the Dems now. TheyÂ’re going to love being able to raise this issue and the GOP is going to have to own or answer all of the negative stories. Regardless of whether or not they and their voters are happy with the outcome, the very real and public struggles of women to get these services will turn voters out more than the hidden impact of abortions ever did. Â‘We did itÂ’ will not turn out votes. Trump knows this and itÂ’s why heÂ’s not owning the overturn. The Dems have won scores of elections on social/culture issues alone, SCOTUS just allowed them to put trans rights, a very weak polling calling card, aside and scream about this. I think itÂ’s going to be a disaster for the GOP this midterm and beyond.

Inflation cooling, jobs hanging in (for now), student debt relief, and abortion. Meanwhile the GOP is stuck on Trump. There should have been a red tidal wave, itÂ’s losing steam fast.

**xubrew** · 08-30-2022, 08:51 AM

I've decided that from now on I will always vote for the most boring candidate. Regardless of party or policy, I just want boring people in office. I want politics to be as uninteresting as it can possibly be. Who puts people to sleep the fastest?? That's all I care about now!!