Covid-19

[Xuperman]

I’m not denouncing anything. I am genuinely curious if you enjoy the debate and the back and forth.

I engaged With you because you are active on the board right now.

I am asking you, Paul, xu82, noteggs, or anyone else on this thread. Is it all in good fun, or do you believe you have to win the argument?

Thanks for posting this question NUTS,
Xavier BBall is one of my few remaining passions and this board provides up to the minute info on our beloved Muskies. I never was interested, nor did I post, anything on these "politic" threads until Biden and Co. began to immediately implement the Obama "Fundamentally Change America" agenda.

Although it hard to stay in my lane, My sole reason to interact on these threads is to try and understand HOW anyone can support the range of destructive policies that are intentionally designed, IMO, to diminish traditional American values.

I am simply in constant pursuit of hearing ANY reasonable explanation in support of these increasingly far left policies and the politicians that are implementing them. That goes for here, or anywhere I am in contact with Biden/Dem voters.

Unfortunately, straight out of the liberal playbook, there is very little back bone to present reasons of support from our leftist friends, which is exactly what am eager to get. I just am looking to understand how someone can be complicit in this destroy America crap, through their vote.

I could care less about Fox news and conservative media. I spend all my time focused on the MSM, aka the propaganda wing of the Democratic party. I am absolutely fascinated by the power they yield and their ability to foment this current craziness so quickly!

[Final4]

I totally understand what you're insinuating.

Clearly you don't. But keep thinking about it and maybe you'll eventually get to that aha moment and recognize the absurdity in that statement.

[MADXSTER]

I like the point-counter point and calling out the BS

[nuts4xu]

I like the point-counter point and calling out the BS

I think your link is broken

[noteggs]

Paul is GREAT to have a bourbon with, being a good man is debatable(he's a great man)

Glad to know! If we do have that bourbon, you can probably guess who be tip or the gipper! Ha!

[paulxu]

94 is being generous in his comments because I'm generous in my tips. So, yes, ....I'll be Tip.
And I'll be happy to buy you a round or two.

[Muskie in dayton]

Do masks stop all droplets? No.
Are they effective in dramatically (80% for N95) in lowering the spread? Yes.
Are they most effective when worn by infected person? Yes.

https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mSphere.00637-20

Thanks for the "most clueless poster" comment. Appreciate the thought.
I'm going with testing by the American Society of Microbiology and will remain clueless.

Wow, seriously? You are discussing droplet transmission. That is so June 2020... and exactly what I should have expected.

Aerosols (airborne particles) are far and away the primary mechanism for COVID transmission, and clearly the only mechanism when comparing case rates of masked vs. unmasked populations. Again, you should seek to learn the truth from sources other than TV news. Even Fauci himself acknowledged airborne transmission in Feb 2020 FOIA emails. Please do some research, read some viewpoints outside the mainstream, and look at actual coid data.

[Muskie in dayton]

I see statistical analysis is not your strong suit.

I see open-mindedness and intellectual curiosity is not your strong suit. That new X curriculum just isn't what is was in the early '90's.

Here's your challenge: First tell me the only geography that still provides some breakdown of cases/hospitalizations/deaths by vaccination status. Hint: the last place (I'm aware of) still providing some raw data on this is an island nation with a horse-toothed, authoritarian leader.

Now go look at their data and tell me about statistical analysis.

[paulxu]

Wow, seriously? You are discussing droplet transmission. That is so June 2020... and exactly what I should have expected.

Aerosols (airborne particles) are far and away the primary mechanism for COVID transmission, and clearly the only mechanism when comparing case rates of masked vs. unmasked populations. Again, you should seek to learn the truth from sources other than TV news. Even Fauci himself acknowledged airborne transmission in Feb 2020 FOIA emails. Please do some research, read some viewpoints outside the mainstream, and look at actual coid data.

This is a perfect example of why fact-based discussions are often difficult here. You note that "Aerosols (airborne particles) are far and away the primary mechanism for COVID transmission,"
Then you say seek truth from sources other than TV.

So...obviously you did not click through to the report I provided, where microbiologists did a study on the effectiveness of masks in the covid spread from aerosols.

How can we have fact based discussions when all you do is sling out criticisms without bothering to read what someone provides?

Here, we developed an airborne transmission simulator of infectious SARS-CoV-2-containing droplets/aerosols produced by human respiration and coughs and assessed the transmissibility of the infectious droplets/aerosols and the ability of various types of face masks to block the transmission

[Xville]

I see open-mindedness and intellectual curiosity is not your strong suit. That new X curriculum just isn't what is was in the early '90's.

Here's your challenge: First tell me the only geography that still provides some breakdown of cases/hospitalizations/deaths by vaccination status. Hint: the last place (I'm aware of) still providing some raw data on this is an island nation with a horse-toothed, authoritarian leader.

Now go look at their data and tell me about statistical analysis.

So you took raw data from one area and made a blanket statement regarding infections in vaccinated vs non-vaccinated people?