Covid-19

[Strange Brew]

Cleveland health systems follow Minnesota:

https://www.today.com/health/health/...tions-rcna9351

Thanks Paul. Now do as you're told.

[waggy]

We’re About to Lose Track of the Pandemic

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/we...?ocid=msedgntp

[XU_Lou]

We’re About to Lose Track of the Pandemic

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/we...?ocid=msedgntp

All the numbers are really garbage anyway. Hospitalizations and deaths are inflated to boost the fear factor (dying WITH Covid versus dying OF Covid). Cases are under-counted. The latest CDC estimates report that cases were actually 3.37 times the official number reported thru 9/30/21. If this number was widely reported people would realize that the REAL infection fatality rate is much lower than what they're led to believe (somewhere between 0.2% and 0.68%):

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...es/burden.html

https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/

Of course the CDC could always conduct randomized serology tests to determine the prevalence of antibodies if they really wanted to know more precisely how many people have been infected.

[94GRAD]

All the numbers are really garbage anyway. Hospitalizations and deaths are inflated to boost the fear factor (dying WITH Covid versus dying OF Covid). Cases are under-counted. The latest CDC estimates report that cases were actually 3.37 times the official number reported thru 9/30/21. If this number was widely reported people would realize that the REAL infection fatality rate is much lower than what they're led to believe (somewhere between 0.2% and 0.68%):

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...es/burden.html

https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/

Of course the CDC could always conduct randomized serology tests to determine the prevalence of antibodies if they really wanted to know more precisely how many people have been infected.

Do you think people with all these comorbidities would be dying at the same rate if they didn't catch Covid?

[waggy]

What do you, or anyone for that matter, really know about the numbers?

[XU_Lou]

Do you think people with all these comorbidities would be dying at the same rate if they didn't catch Covid?

Roughly 39% of the people who have died in the US were in nursing homes (thru 1/21-see link below / Pandemia reports this number to be 35%). Statistically, they only had months to live anyway - in fact, a 2010 study found that 53% of nursing home residents die within 6 months of being admitted.

* In testimony to the British Parliament in 2020, Neil Ferguson estimated that 50-66% of all Covid deaths might occur in people who would've died within 9 months anyway because of their age and their comorbidities.

* In Sept 2020, the largest funeral home operator in the US (Service Corp International), reported that roughly 1/3 of all funerals of people who died of Covid would've died in 2020 anyway, and another 1/3 or more would've died in 2021 anyway.

* According to Pandemia, more than 100,000 Covid victims had dementia, Alzheimer's or cancer when they died (thru the spring of 2021). The author points out the dilemma of distinguishing between dying WITH Covid versus dying OF Covid in these instances. The CDC told hospitals to err on the side of counting those deaths as dying OF Covid

https://ltccovid.org/wp-content/uplo...bruary-1-2.pdf


Per the CDC, 26.2% of all deaths were >85 years old. Another 25.7% were between 75 and 84.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ekly/index.htm

You should read the "How Deadly" chapter in Pandemia to find out how the CDC changed the coding procedures that allowed Covid to be listed as the primary reason for deaths on death certificates, such as the 100,000+ figures stated above.

[xu82]

What do you, or anyone for that matter, really know about the numbers?

Were you asking Lou? He’s pretty sure he’s nailed these numbers, it seems. He sounds quite confident.


….I don’t even pretend to know.

[XU_Lou]

Were you asking Lou? He’s pretty sure he’s nailed these numbers, it seems. He sounds quite confident.


….I don’t even pretend to know.

The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who can’t read....

[xu82]

The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who can’t read....

The man with an agenda has no advantage over the man who is open to both sides.


….quite the opposite.

[XU_Lou]

The man with an agenda has no advantage over the man who is open to both sides.


….quite the opposite.

Pahleeeeaase..., you do have an agenda.... You want to shut us up. And you clearly aren't open to anything other than whatever Fauci tells you to think.

Instead of telling us for umpteenth time how you know nothing and have no desire to educate yourself, why don't you just say what's really on your mind? Just say it: "For the love of God, Lou, shut the fuck up up! I can't handle it anymore!"