Covid-19

[xukeith]

I can’t speak for everybody’s burn out but I can for myself and those around me, and I feel is a fair representation of most healthcare providers. The burnout we are experiencing is not just from being overworked due to inadequate staffing. The only exception to this might be the emergency departments as they are understaffed and have no control over their volume. Burn out comes from doing the same thing over and over again and not seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. It is extremely discouraging to do your best to encourage patients to get vaccinated, stay home when they’re sick, etc. only to see it get worse. Healthcare providers help people every day that fail to help themselves. That’s part of the job, taking care of smokers, non-compliant diabetics, the list goes on. The difference is those people do not cause such an impediment on everyone else’s health care. We aren’t canceling surgeries because we don’t have a bed because the smoker with lung cancer or heart disease needs admission. People are hesitant to go to the hospital to see care because they know it’s a nightmare there. This could have been prevented by everyone getting vaccinated. I’m not saying everyone should be mandated to be vaccinated but once their poor decisions affect the health of others it is incredibly frustrating to see. Empathy goes out the window… hence, burnout. Job satisfaction goes way down so people quit. I know more nurses that have quit because they don’t enjoy their job than those that quit due to vaccine mandate and it’s not close. The cherry on top is that people seem to feel very entitled these days in every aspect. That’s a whole other ball of wax.

The hospitalization rates for covid currently in northern Ohio are so high it’s worse than it has ever been. The current ratio of unvaccinated to vaccinated hospitalizations is about 2:1 (67% unvaccinated, 33% vaccinated). 2 months ago ir was 85/15ish. Those numbers are getting closer to each other as time goes on because there are more breakthrough cases the farther out we get from when most people got the first two shots. The urgency to get a booster is very low because apparently the CDC is afraid to change the definition of “fully vaccinated“. I get it, once they make that change they will again have to hear how they are moving goalposts yada yada yada.

Can't people just keep their distance? I see 20-30, 000 people yelling and screaming at outdoor sports events and I do not see a massive rise in any deaths. If you are over 60, take precautions.
I think there is a pill to take orally now that is a game changer. Next year this time, life on this continent will be "normal" pre Covid.

[Lloyd Braun]

Can't people just keep their distance? I see 20-30, 000 people yelling and screaming at outdoor sports events and I do not see a massive rise in any deaths. If you are over 60, take precautions.
I think there is a pill to take orally now that is a game changer. Next year this time, life on this continent will be "normal" pre Covid.

Outdoors is not much of an issue, that’s been well established. Not sure what your point is. We said the same thing last year about this year.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I can’t speak for everybody’s burn out but I can for myself and those around me, and I feel is a fair representation of most healthcare providers. The burnout we are experiencing is not just from being overworked due to inadequate staffing. The only exception to this might be the emergency departments as they are understaffed and have no control over their volume. Burn out comes from doing the same thing over and over again and not seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. It is extremely discouraging to do your best to encourage patients to get vaccinated, stay home when they’re sick, etc. only to see it get worse. Healthcare providers help people every day that fail to help themselves. That’s part of the job, taking care of smokers, non-compliant diabetics, the list goes on. The difference is those people do not cause such an impediment on everyone else’s health care. We aren’t canceling surgeries because we don’t have a bed because the smoker with lung cancer or heart disease needs admission. People are hesitant to go to the hospital to see care because they know it’s a nightmare there. This could have been prevented by everyone getting vaccinated. I’m not saying everyone should be mandated to be vaccinated but once their poor decisions affect the health of others it is incredibly frustrating to see. Empathy goes out the window… hence, burnout. Job satisfaction goes way down so people quit. I know more nurses that have quit because they don’t enjoy their job than those that quit due to vaccine mandate and it’s not close. The cherry on top is that people seem to feel very entitled these days in every aspect. That’s a whole other ball of wax.

The hospitalization rates for covid currently in northern Ohio are so high it’s worse than it has ever been. The current ratio of unvaccinated to vaccinated hospitalizations is about 2:1 (67% unvaccinated, 33% vaccinated). 2 months ago ir was 85/15ish. Those numbers are getting closer to each other as time goes on because there are more breakthrough cases the farther out we get from when most people got the first two shots. The urgency to get a booster is very low because apparently the CDC is afraid to change the definition of “fully vaccinated“. I get it, once they make that change they will again have to hear how they are moving goalposts yada yada yada.

Perfectly stated

[Muskie in dayton]

I can’t speak for everybody’s burn out but I can for myself and those around me, and I feel is a fair representation of most healthcare providers. The burnout we are experiencing is not just from being overworked due to inadequate staffing. The only exception to this might be the emergency departments as they are understaffed and have no control over their volume. Burn out comes from doing the same thing over and over again and not seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. It is extremely discouraging to do your best to encourage patients to get vaccinated, stay home when they’re sick, etc. only to see it get worse. Healthcare providers help people every day that fail to help themselves. That’s part of the job, taking care of smokers, non-compliant diabetics, the list goes on. The difference is those people do not cause such an impediment on everyone else’s health care. We aren’t canceling surgeries because we don’t have a bed because the smoker with lung cancer or heart disease needs admission. People are hesitant to go to the hospital to see care because they know it’s a nightmare there. This could have been prevented by everyone getting vaccinated. I’m not saying everyone should be mandated to be vaccinated but once their poor decisions affect the health of others it is incredibly frustrating to see. Empathy goes out the window… hence, burnout. Job satisfaction goes way down so people quit. I know more nurses that have quit because they don’t enjoy their job than those that quit due to vaccine mandate and it’s not close. The cherry on top is that people seem to feel very entitled these days in every aspect. That’s a whole other ball of wax.

The hospitalization rates for covid currently in northern Ohio are so high it’s worse than it has ever been. The current ratio of unvaccinated to vaccinated hospitalizations is about 2:1 (67% unvaccinated, 33% vaccinated). 2 months ago ir was 85/15ish. Those numbers are getting closer to each other as time goes on because there are more breakthrough cases the farther out we get from when most people got the first two shots. The urgency to get a booster is very low because apparently the CDC is afraid to change the definition of “fully vaccinated“. I get it, once they make that change they will again have to hear how they are moving goalposts yada yada yada.

What you describe is true for most of not all professions. It use to bother me more until I came to accept that people are imperfect and always will be. This is why we have jobs.

[Muskie in dayton]

Nevermind, waste of time this thread is.

To paraphrase your last two posts, “Instead of answering your question, I’ll just claim it’s beneath me.” Also using Yoda syntax for an unique twist.
I can’t accept that (except the Yoda part). Suppose I am “too stupid” to understand and tell me.

[Xville]

To paraphrase your last two posts, “Instead of answering your question, I’ll just claim it’s beneath me.” Also using Yoda syntax for an unique twist.
I can’t accept that (except the Yoda part). Suppose I am “too stupid” to understand and tell me.

I think Lloyd explained it pretty perfectly and he’s in the medical field, doesn’t play one on the internet. Plus, this question of yours has been answered several times on his thread already.

[Strange Brew]

I can’t speak for everybody’s burn out but I can for myself and those around me, and I feel is a fair representation of most healthcare providers. The burnout we are experiencing is not just from being overworked due to inadequate staffing. The only exception to this might be the emergency departments as they are understaffed and have no control over their volume. Burn out comes from doing the same thing over and over again and not seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. It is extremely discouraging to do your best to encourage patients to get vaccinated, stay home when they’re sick, etc. only to see it get worse. Healthcare providers help people every day that fail to help themselves. That’s part of the job, taking care of smokers, non-compliant diabetics, the list goes on. The difference is those people do not cause such an impediment on everyone else’s health care. We aren’t canceling surgeries because we don’t have a bed because the smoker with lung cancer or heart disease needs admission. People are hesitant to go to the hospital to see care because they know it’s a nightmare there. This could have been prevented by everyone getting vaccinated. I’m not saying everyone should be mandated to be vaccinated but once their poor decisions affect the health of others it is incredibly frustrating to see. Empathy goes out the window… hence, burnout. Job satisfaction goes way down so people quit. I know more nurses that have quit because they don’t enjoy their job than those that quit due to vaccine mandate and it’s not close. The cherry on top is that people seem to feel very entitled these days in every aspect. That’s a whole other ball of wax.

The hospitalization rates for covid currently in northern Ohio are so high it’s worse than it has ever been. The current ratio of unvaccinated to vaccinated hospitalizations is about 2:1 (67% unvaccinated, 33% vaccinated). 2 months ago ir was 85/15ish. Those numbers are getting closer to each other as time goes on because there are more breakthrough cases the farther out we get from when most people got the first two shots. The urgency to get a booster is very low because apparently the CDC is afraid to change the definition of “fully vaccinated“. I get it, once they make that change they will again have to hear how they are moving goalposts yada yada yada.

I understand where you’re coming from. The hesitancy comes from a the Drs pushing it in the media and a lack of trust in the govt trying to mandate it. If it had been created and left to people and their personal Drs we’d likely be in a better spot. Said it before, you want people to resist MAKE them do something.

A solution to the burnout and overcrowding could be to setup COVID treatment centers and have the medical pros work on rotations in the centers. Blaming is easy, solutions are harder.

[Lloyd Braun]

What you describe is true for most of not all professions. It use to bother me more until I came to accept that people are imperfect and always will be. This is why we have jobs.

Wow Debby downer over here…Perhaps you’ve read a little too much Nietzsche? I wasn’t aware that it is so difficult to have a rewarding job!

I still believe people at the core are inherently good.

[Lloyd Braun]

I understand where you’re coming from. The hesitancy comes from a the Drs pushing it in the media and a lack of trust in the govt trying to mandate it. If it had been created and left to people and their personal Drs we’d likely be in a better spot. Said it before, you want people to resist MAKE them do something.

A solution to the burnout and overcrowding could be to setup COVID treatment centers and have the medical pros work on rotations in the centers. Blaming is easy, solutions are harder.

So the solution to solving Health Care burnout from Covid is to make us work more Covid?

[Strange Brew]

So the solution to solving Health Care burnout from Covid is to make us work more Covid?

Not what I meant. Rotate in and out. You mentioned dealing with constantly doing the same thing. A period in and then rotate back to the regular duties. Maybe back for a period if needed. Would think it would give the nurses and Drs a break?