Covid-19

[Xville]

I agree and it shouldn't be divisive but everything is. Fauci is not a good dude and I'm tired of him setting policy for 300+M people. Let the Guvs handle it. Dr. Tony is bringing this scrutiny on himself because he needs the spotlight and the media needs eyeballs.

I left the Republican party because of this our side/your side (the entire Bush clan). I'm a Libertarian and do not feel, in this case, any politician (including Fauci) knows better than my Dr and I what's best.

IDK but do you ever get the feeling the politicians play the Left/Right game to get us mad a each other instead of taking a look at what they're up to?

100% agree with you on your last statement…that’s where politics is right now, maybe it’s always been that way but it has been front and center for the better part of 20 years now. I have lots of family members who are or have been at pretty high positions at the state level, and it’s about as bad there.

[Strange Brew]

100% agree with you on your last statement…that’s where politics is right now, maybe it’s always been that way but it has been front and center for the better part of 20 years now. I have lots of family members who are or have been at pretty high positions at the state level, and it’s about as bad there.

You're not wrong and it's partially why I've been insolent on the role of the Court. I'd like people to understand the rights belong to us (by Nature, God, the Creator, or nobody just you) not to the politicians. Especially, those limited to at 10x10mi square for good reason. :)

[XU_Lou]

New study and warning from American Heart Association:

"We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium (layer of cells lining the blood vessels) and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis (clotting), cardiomyopathy, (a group of diseases that affect the heart muscle) and other vascular events following vaccination.”

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/....suppl_1.10712

Would this explain why "At least 69 athletes collapse in one month, many dead": https://freewestmedia.com/2021/11/26...nth-many-dead/

Or, the Israeli study showing that Athletes are collapsing and dying at 5x the usual rate in 2021:
https://www-rtnews-co-il.translate.g..._x_tr_hl=en-US

[noteggs]

As many know, I’m pro vax. However, I completely don’t understand what the hell government and medical community are doing! This vaccine campaign is now like the flu shot.

What I mean is the flu shot is historically somewhat effective against the current strain which is initially based off a guess from other countries data (longer story but you get the point). No adjustments are made with flu vaccine because “well we came close and hope we get better next year.” Current covid vaccine is/may still be a good option to protect yourself from serious outcomes or hospitalizations.

Of course, not great either. But we have known the specific variant lineage in all 10 mutations (ok we eventually know with the flu season but we accept the consequences) and haven’t done a damn thing about it. We are extremely late to ask the pharma companies to adjust the vaccine based on other variants and that goes for monoclonal antibodies.

Why wasn’t this done when Delta was becoming prevalent last summer? I can see why someone would delay the booster a month or two until the vax companies can come up with a tested and more effective formulation (big if) for the variants. Not for elderly and immunocompromised of course. Also, if you feel strongly on getting the booster, please do so because this is just one man’s rant and there are benefits in doing so.

I’m just upset we haven’t been proactive and government/medical knows damn well we could have done better. Selling a covid booster to the public with better effectiveness would be so much easier especially with the number of breakthrough cases people hear about on a daily basis. Better yet, just show you are trying to do something differently vs just saying “get the jab, booster or wear a mast.”

Sorry if we have an abundance of current vaccine in stock, but it’s just matter of time before the virus starts to evade the vaccine and natural immunity if they don’t act now. Sounds like the Omicron has 15 mutations in its receptor binding domain compared to 2 for Delta. Even though late in my opinion, it would be a good time to start with the Omicron if it becomes prevalent. Yes I know, jury is still out on Omicron, but we should be prepared nonetheless.

[xu82]

As many know, I’m pro vax. However, I completely don’t understand what the hell government and medical community are doing! This vaccine campaign is now like the flu shot.

What I mean is the flu shot is historically somewhat effective against the current strain which is initially based off a guess from other countries data (longer story but you get the point). No adjustments are made with flu vaccine because “well we came close and hope we get better next year.” Current covid vaccine is/may still be a good option to protect yourself from serious outcomes or hospitalizations.

Of course, not great either. But we have known the specific variant lineage in all 10 mutations (ok we eventually know with the flu season but we accept the consequences) and haven’t done a damn thing about it. We are extremely late to ask the pharma companies to adjust the vaccine based on other variants and that goes for monoclonal antibodies.

Why wasn’t this done when Delta was becoming prevalent last summer? I can see why someone would delay the booster a month or two until the vax companies can come up with a tested and more effective formulation (big if) for the variants. Not for elderly and immunocompromised of course. Also, if you feel strongly on getting the booster, please do so because this is just one man’s rant and there are benefits in doing so.

I’m just upset we haven’t been proactive and government/medical knows damn well we could have done better. Selling a covid booster to the public with better effectiveness would be so much easier especially with the number of breakthrough cases people hear about on a daily basis. Better yet, just show you are trying to do something differently vs just saying “get the jab, booster or wear a mast.”

Sorry if we have an abundance of current vaccine in stock, but it’s just matter of time before the virus starts to evade the vaccine and natural immunity if they don’t act now. Sounds like the Omicron has 15 mutations in its receptor binding domain compared to 2 for Delta. Even though late in my opinion, it would be a good time to start with the Omicron if it becomes prevalent. Yes I know, jury is still out on Omicron, but we should be prepared nonetheless.

This, to me, is a rational post that is neither “this side” nor “that side”. We need to remain nimble and able to pivot when circumstances say we should. I’ll get the booster, but I’m in no rush. I’m not petrified by the thought of illness, I just want to avoid the whole nasty hospitalization/death scenario. I would not be shocked it I had it once before the vax, and another milder time post-vax. Here I am, annoying all of you with yet another post! :-)

[noteggs]

New study and warning from American Heart Association:

Warning is not actually from the AHA. Warning comes from an author who’s article has not yet been peered reviewed. Definitely going to have to take a wait and see on this one….

Medical community has had some push back on this one.

[paulxu]

I would think all vaccines include some small risk of side effects for a limited number of people...and those can be of concern.
That's why every time I go to any doctor for anything, I am asked whether I'm allergic to any drugs, etc.

But the benefits of the current vaccine so far outweigh the risks to some very small number of people, it certainly makes sense to try and get everyone vaccinated to stop the spread.

I wonder if everyone who could have gotten it, did months ago, if we'd have much lower hospitalizations and deaths.

[xu82]

Warning is not actually from the AHA. Warning comes from an author who’s article has not yet been peered reviewed. Definitely going to have to take a wait and see on this one….

Medical community has had some push back on this one.

And THAT is why I ignore the stuff spewed by those with obvious agendas.

[XU_Lou]

I would think all vaccines include some small risk of side effects for a limited number of people...and those can be of concern.
That's why every time I go to any doctor for anything, I am asked whether I'm allergic to any drugs, etc.

But the benefits of the current vaccine so far outweigh the risks to some very small number of people, it certainly makes sense to try and get everyone vaccinated to stop the spread.

I wonder if everyone who could have gotten it, did months ago, if we'd have much lower hospitalizations and deaths.

I wonder why far more people have died during the Biden admin when they had the benefit of having the vast majority of the population vaccinated, as compared to the Trump era when there were no vaccines..... Promises made, promises not kept....

[xu82]

Life is good when you have options. Manual ignore. Actual ignore. Unpaid vacations, etc.