Covid-19

[xu82]

holy crap are you joking?

I shouldn’t have sunk to this. I’ll be stepping away for a while, but it’s worth mentioning nothing will be accomplished here. As information changes, I may change how I feel. For now it’s just people who are stuck in their opinions, often confusing them with facts. At least I freely admit, I DON”T KNOW FOR SURE, so I play it safe.

For what it’s worth, my father was as far right as my sister is far left. I grew up with that (she’s 8 years older) and learned to stay out of the fray. I avoid politics at all costs, other than voting for the person I feel is best qualified, regardless of party affiliation. I don’t have a “side” other than trying to play it safe and try to be a good neighbor.

[xu82]

So you choose to speak about them here instead of directly?

Yes, because to them that would be too personal. It’s not worth it to broach the topic. If she wants to know how I feel she can ask, but it’s still and ALWAYS 100% her choice, which I would certainly include in that conversation.

Besides, when I brought it up it was because a person deeply entrenched in their position was able to change her mind in the face of losing a close friend, and I found that encouraging. They acted like adults in the face of new information, and that is something we ALL need to be able to do regardless of what direction new info takes us.


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[XU_Lou]

I’ll be stepping away for a while

again...but he'll be back because he loves the abuse...

so I play it safe.

who knew?

[Strange Brew]

Yes, because to them that would be too personal. It’s not worth it to broach the topic. If she wants to know how I feel she can ask, but it’s still and ALWAYS 100% her choice, which I would certainly include in that conversation.

Besides, when I brought it up it was because a person deeply entrenched in their position was able to change her mind in the face of losing a close friend, and I found that encouraging. They acted like adults in the face of new information, and that is something we ALL need to be able to do.

Ok, talk to you soon.

[Strange Brew]

I shouldn’t have sunk to this. I’ll be stepping away for a while, but it’s worth mentioning nothing will be accomplished here. As information changes, I may change how I feel. For now it’s just people who are stuck in their opinions, often confusing them with facts. At least I freely admit, I DON”T KNOW FOR SURE, so I play it safe.

For what it’s worth, my father was as far right as my sister is far left. I grew up with that (she’s 8 years older) and learned to stay out of the fray. I avoid politics at all costs, other than voting for the person I feel is best qualified, regardless of party affiliation. I don’t have a “side” other than trying to play it safe and try to be a good neighbor.

One last thought. For someone who claims to not know everything you don’t seem to ask a lot of questions.

I’ll start. Hey Lou! Why did you omit the unvaxxed in your response?

[XU_Lou]

I'm quite amused how Ville, 82 and others have gotten so exorcised by my "questions". It's pretty obvious that this is truly the proverbial elephant in the room. Is it that deep down they know the risks are quite low for healthy individuals, but they don't want to admit it (never give an inch!)?

a) Regardless of whether or not those that are getting sick are vaccinated or not, those 4 questions are still the most relevant questions to ask if we're trying to determine the true risk for the young and healthy populations.

b) The faux outrage that I had the gall not to ask what percentage are unvaccinated is quite rich. As if I've never addressed this. See post #5662

c) Finally, you say that my 4 questions are somehow extreme? Really, that's quite amusing because I've shared data on these 4 topics on several occasions - including data from the CDC website itself! And that's not good enough for ville and 82? That's your problem - not mine. If you want to stick your heads up your asses and pretend that these aren't the key factors for negative Covid outcomes, it doesn't change reality.


Any time you see Fauci or someone in the media spouting off a bunch of dire Covid fearmongering numbers, you need to ask these 4 questions:

* What's the average age compared to last winter or last year?

* What percent are overweight?

* What percent have a comorbidity?

* What percent have a vitamin D deficiency?

[Strange Brew]

I'm quite amused how Ville, 82 and others have gotten so exorcised by my "questions". It's pretty obvious that this is truly the proverbial elephant in the room. Is it that deep down they know the risks are quite low for healthy individuals, but they don't want to admit it (never give an inch!)?

a) Regardless of whether or not those that are getting sick are vaccinated or not, those 4 questions are still the most relevant questions to ask if we're trying to determine the true risk for the young and healthy populations.

b) The faux outrage that I had the gall not to ask what percentage are unvaccinated is quite rich. As if I've never addressed this. See post #5662

c) Finally, you say that my 4 questions are somehow extreme? Really, that's quite amusing because I've shared data on these 4 topics on several occasions - including data from the CDC website itself! And that's not good enough for ville and 82? That's your problem - not mine. If you want to stick your heads up your asses and pretend that these aren't the key factors for negative Covid outcomes, it doesn't change reality.


Any time you see Fauci or someone in the media spouting off a bunch of dire Covid fearmongering numbers, you need to ask these 4 questions:

* What's the average age compared to last winter or last year?

* What percent are overweight?

* What percent have a comorbidity?

* What percent have a vitamin D deficiency?

It’s my non expert opinion that we will continue the circular spiral about vaccines and masks until the relevancy of these and potentially other questions are addressed with the same vigor as vaccines. Also, these questions are one of the reasons I’ve moved to information on treatments.

[XU_Lou]

It’s my non expert opinion that we will continue the circular spiral about vaccines and masks until the relevancy of these and potentially other questions are addressed with the same vigor as vaccines. Also, these questions are one of the reasons I’ve moved to information on treatments.

Honestly, that should have been the FIRST question addressed way back in February or March of 2020. But, as we saw, treatments weren't allowed when billions could be made on a vaccine.

Totally agree, we should have a much more in-depth knowledge of which treatments work best, and what the risks are for each one.

[Strange Brew]

Honestly, that should have been the FIRST question addressed way back in February or March of 2020. But, as we saw, treatments weren't allowed when billions could be made on a vaccine.

Totally agree, we should have a much more in-depth knowledge of which treatments work best, and what the risks are for each one.

Maybe. Vaccines were important to slow the advance and emerge from lock down. Hindsight is 20/20 but very glad to hear there’s great, quiet treatment work being done. Vax can help before and treatment for when it’s upon you.

I hear it’s beautiful, the best work, smartest work. Sorry couldn’t help myself. :)

[Smails]

Funny those who think the gov't is so evil and quickly line up for the free vax.

I'm not really sure what this means, Bobbie. I don't think the government is evil, I just want them to stay in their lanes and stay out of the business of determining that certain people aren't able to make personal choices. Your takes are odd.