Politics Thread

**X-man** · 09-19-2020, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton

No, I'm not with bozo. I maintain that his behavior renders him unfit to the office of POTUS. Furthermore, I maintain my partisan independence and believe the two party system is detrimental to our country and why we have 2 candidates like we do. I've said the vote between Trump and Biden is just picking the lesser of two evils.

However, I am for fairness and honesty. That is why when I see people blaming Trump for "200,000 dead", I puke in my mouth. That is incredibly disingenuous. When I see Biden at the DNC call Trump the worst President for the economy because of the job losses, I want to throw a brick through the TV. Blaming Trump for actions of the idiot governors who still have things shut down and caused this? Seriously?

Fairness and honesty applies to the media too. I watched as the COVID-19 pandemic progressed, as a scientist and data junkie, how manipulated, sensationalized and false the media reporting was - and still is. Then I wonder, if they are bastardizing the truth about COVID-19 so badly, what else are the bastardizing? It turns out a lot if they can spin it to make Trump look bad.

Then as a person who values self-responsibility, law and order, and loves the country, I watch as Antifa and BLM preach about killing cops and chant death to America, while rioting/burning/looting, I am appalled. Please Biden and Dems, come down clearly without mincing words, condemn this behavior and deem these two organization exactly what they are - domestic terrorists. But nothing. Then Harris patronizes the criminal who got himself shot, while ignoring personal responsibility and the guy's victim. I was a Democrat until about 10 years ago. Hell I even canvassed for Obama in '08. But that Democratic party is dead. It has been replaced by pure evil.

So a vote for Trump is the lesser of two evils. Or is he an evil at all? Perhaps the narrative the media has created is another fabrication. Yes his behavior is disgusting and immature, but his actions have proven he's a competent President who has accomplished most of what he promised. The result has been four years of peace and prosperity...despite a pandemic.

So Bobbie, I'm not WITH bozo, but I have decided to vote for him. He is not only the safe choice, but the only choice to ensure domestic tranquility, promote the general welfare, and secure blessings of liberty for this great country that I love. I hope you and all Dems and Independents out there will also pause and objectively and critically evaluate what is going on, just like we were taught to do at X. Then decide what is best for The United States of America. You may reach a different conclusion, but at least be fair.

Yup, sure sounds like you are a partisan independent.

**bobbiemcgee** · 09-19-2020, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by X Factor

Let the record show, our resident "independent" finally broke down and told me to kill myself.

Oh noooooooo... the President said you will be cured of covid if you inject some bleach and swallow a laser light tube. He's just trying to help his supporters. So go ahead. You should be FINE! After all, his supporters believe everything he says. Right?

**bobbiemcgee** · 09-19-2020, 10:11 AM

Mc Connell 4yrs. ago:

“The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president,” McConnell said.

Guess he'll be eating these words today.

xuwillie · 09-19-2020, 10:14 AM

I’d rather McConnell eat his words than have Harris pick a judge. Holly hell would that be a mess

**bobbiemcgee** · 09-19-2020, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Keep clutching those pearls. Still waiting on your evidence that Trump caused a genocide of the Kurds. Maybe you should take a few plays off.

Maybe you just missed it: trump abandoned our long time allies.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/101026...ion-explained/

**bobbiemcgee** · 09-19-2020, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by xuwillie

I’d rather McConnell eat his words than have Harris pick a judge.

Yep. If it's corrupt, the admin. is all for it. "Do as we say, not as we do". Business as usual.

**bobbiemcgee** · 09-19-2020, 11:00 AM

Murkowski:

“When Republicans held off Merrick Garland it was because nine months prior to the election was too close, we needed to let people decide. And I agreed to do that. If we now say that months prior to the election is OK when nine months was not, that is a double standard and I don’t believe we should do it,” she said. “So I would not support it.”

Lindsay Graham, Collins, Tillis and Gardner all agreed with this, so we'll see if they buckle under the trump corruption.

**paulxu** · 09-19-2020, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton

as a scientist and data junkie, how manipulated, sensationalized and false the media reporting was - and still is. Then I wonder, if they are bastardizing the truth about COVID-19 so badly, what else are the bastardizing? It turns out a lot if they can spin it to make Trump look bad.

If you really are a scientist and data junkie (somehow I'm skeptical, sorry) then you would respect the notices from Scientific American and Science magazines, and their take on Trump and his, and his administration's handling, of the virus situation. Like HHS overriding the recommendations of the scientists at CDC in putting out "guidelines" that are later retracted.

And you would know there is no Antifa organization. And you would know the BLM organizations do not support violence. And you would know that our best intelligence agencies rate right wing white militant/supremacist organizations (and there are dozens of them) as the real threat to our civil safety.

If you have a few hours, I suggest you read "It was all a Lie" by Stuart Stevens. You'll appreciate his data driven analysis, and the fact that he has many Republican campaigns under his belt.