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    Quote Originally Posted by Smails View Post
    Absolutely. I was just wanting to get your opinion on mail-in voting versus what you typed originally. Thank you for that.

    I completely disagree with you about mail-in voting. The more human hands that get involved in the election, the higher probability for major screw ups and outright fraud. Our postal system is currently insolvent and stressed to the max. It is at best a poorly run function of the government. Let's go ahead and flood them with 120+ million extra pieces of mail in a short period of time. What could possibly go wrong with that? How many more postal inspectors will the country need to add to maintain the integrity of this process? Can they be hired and adequately trained by November? What happens when a letter carrier (perhaps a hard-core conservative working in an urban area) just happens to 'lose' a bunch of mail? I just think we need to be looking at ways to make our voting system more accurate and efficient and this looks to be going the opposite way. Way too many moving parts.
    And what was that? Also, can you tell me how mail-in voting has worked in the states that have been doing it 100% for years? And how it is doing in states like Ohio, among many other states, that offer the mail-in option for any reason?
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    Yeah let's do mail in voting...maybe by 2022, we will know who won the election. Effin stupid. If you can go to the grocery store, go to work, go to restaurants, go protest etc, you can stand in line and vote...spare me the covid crap and the " well I'll do x,y,z and willing to get covid because it fits what I want to do, but wont do x,y,a because it s dangerous crap.

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    One of the biggest issues I’ve heard: Most poll workers are over the age of 60 and many approaching a significantly older age. I would foresee many of these workers “opting out” which leaves a personnel problem. Who is going to do this? Mail in voting eases the burden some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun View Post
    One of the biggest issues I’ve heard: Most poll workers are over the age of 60 and many approaching a significantly older age. I would foresee many of these workers “opting out” which leaves a personnel problem. Who is going to do this? Mail in voting eases the burden some.
    While in turn completely overwhelming an already overwhelmed USPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-man View Post
    And what was that? Also, can you tell me how mail-in voting has worked in the states that have been doing it 100% for years? And how it is doing in states like Ohio, among many other states, that offer the mail-in option for any reason?
    That I needed to get out more if i held a certain opinion...non-value added IMO

    I think 5 states have all mail-in voting. You think its possible to mobilize that model (which has taken years to get right) to 45 other states in 3 months? Let's be realistic. Do you think the USPS can handle that? I think we can all agree that this is kind of an important election in an absolutely crazy time. Why create more chaos and uncertainty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    While in turn completely overwhelming an already overwhelmed USPS.
    Except in Florida...because, well...Florida.
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    I will fill out my mail ballot and drop it in the ballot box provided by my condo association and the board of elections. Simple and saves the postage.
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    It seems the NRA might be a big grift, like Trump U and Trump Foundation.
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    While in turn completely overwhelming an already overwhelmed USPS.
    I receive no less than 5 pieces of unwanted mail a day. During this election cycle I assume I will receive hundreds of unwanted political campaign ads. I do not think 2 additional pieces of incoming mail for my household and 2 additional pieces of outgoing mail is going to bring the USPS to its knees.

    And yes, f*** showing up to a polling place during a pandemic. I will be voting mail.

    *USPS claims on their average day they deliver 472 million pieces of mail (https://facts.usps.com/one-day/#:~:t...%20each%20day.).

    There are 233.5 million voting age individuals in the US (https://www.census.gov/data/tables/t...ng-tables.html)

    So if 100% of all eligible voters were mailed a ballot and 100% of them returned it it would equal an increase to the USPS of less than 1 day of mail.
    Last edited by STL_XUfan; 08-06-2020 at 11:58 AM.
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    Las Vegas: Over 223K Mail-In Ballots Bounced as ‘Undeliverable’ in Recent Primary Election

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...mary-election/

    Evidence Mounts That Mail-In Voting Will Bring Only Fraud And Chaos

    https://issuesinsights.com/2020/08/0...aud-and-chaos/
    Last edited by X Factor; 08-06-2020 at 12:27 PM.

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