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    There may be some large urban v. rural skewing going on with those state comparisons.
    Just a thought.
    Also, that tweet is from May 16th. That's 2 1/2 months ago. I suspect things may have changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    There may be some large urban v. rural skewing going on with those state comparisons.
    Just a thought.
    Also, that tweet is from May 16th. That's 2 1/2 months ago. I suspect things may have changed.
    May 16 was at or near the end of lockdowns, after which this comparison can no longer be made. That's the final score.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton View Post
    This has been covered. We have ample evidence that lockdowns work... if your goal is to destroy peoples lives. But if you're trying to stop the spread of a disease, not so much:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/kylamb8/s...78514950459393
    Your source is a 2 month old post on a twitter feed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton View Post
    May 16 was at or near the end of lockdowns, after which this comparison can no longer be made. That's the final score.
    That is not accurate.

    For example: In New Jersey we have fluctuated between 3 and 5 new cases per 100K residents for a while now. We were nowhere near open on May 15th. We are just recently getting close to completely open, but still have restrictions on indoor dining, bars, and gyms. We are also wearing masks. I think that the masks might actually be doing more than the lockdowns, but it's hard to separate the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun View Post
    https://twitter.com/govmikedewine/st...917575173?s=21

    So the Ohio Board of Pharmacy restricts use for HCQ in treating COVID. The Governor recommends otherwise... should be interesting. I tend to agree with the Governor on this unless there is a shortage of HCQ, or overwhelming evidence of hoarding/poor prescribing. For instance, dentists prescribing this for their families is not appropriate but has happened on more than a few occasions.
    The response by Ohio Board of Pharmacy:
    “As a result of the feedback received by the medical and patient community and at the request of Governor DeWine, the State of Ohio Board of Pharmacy has withdrawn proposed rule 4729:5-5-21 of the Administrative Code. Therefore, prohibitions on the prescribing of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine in Ohio for the treatment of COVID-19 will not take effect at this time.”

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    I just checked one state. As far as I can tell, Florida
    Shut Down April 1st
    Began Reopening on May 18th.
    By my calculation, that is 48 days.
    Yet they're grouped in this guy's figures as a state between 20-37 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton View Post
    May 16 was at or near the end of lockdowns, after which this comparison can no longer be made. That's the final score.
    Trying to compare areas with a large variance of population density and urbanization is not going to get you far in discovering facts. There are too many variables and timeline shifts to know what’s true on May 16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    I just checked one state. As far as I can tell, Florida
    Shut Down April 1st
    Began Reopening on May 18th.
    By my calculation, that is 48 days.
    Yet they're grouped in this guy's figures as a state between 20-37 days.
    And not to mention, look at their stats since ELIMINATING lockdowns.... it’s not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun View Post
    The response by Ohio Board of Pharmacy:
    “As a result of the feedback received by the medical and patient community and at the request of Governor DeWine, the State of Ohio Board of Pharmacy has withdrawn proposed rule 4729:5-5-21 of the Administrative Code. Therefore, prohibitions on the prescribing of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine in Ohio for the treatment of COVID-19 will not take effect at this time.”
    Saw that. Looks like there’re going to let doctors be doctors while gathering more information for themselves.

    IMO, the Ohio Board of Pharmacy is trying to over extend their role...again. They do play an important function just wish they would stick to it.

    I remember when they mandated a TDDD (Terminal Distributer License) for doctor offices who sampled insulin (nice revenue source for the board). They made a decision that insulin was to be classified as a dangerous drug. Yes it can be, but think you can say that about any drug. So a dr who prescribes insulin now needs a license to give them a sample? Of course a patient can just go to Walmart’s drive thru without a discussion with the pharmacist and get it without a doctors prescription or knowledge. Bazaar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noteggs View Post
    Saw that. Looks like there’re going to let doctors be doctors while gathering more information for themselves.

    IMO, the Ohio Board of Pharmacy is trying to over extend their role...again. They do play an important function just wish they would stick to it.

    I remember when they mandated a TDDD (Terminal Distributer License) for doctor offices who sampled insulin (nice revenue source for the board). They made a decision that insulin was to be classified as a dangerous drug. Yes it can be, but think you can say that about any drug. So a dr who prescribes insulin now needs a license to give them a sample? Of course a patient can just go to Walmart’s drive thru without a discussion with the pharmacist and get it without a doctors prescription or knowledge. Bazaar.
    Yes unless there is a shortage of a medication I don’t agree with the initial mandate either.

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