Covid-19

[GoMuskies]

MLB wanted to. The players said no.

[XU '11]

Since their last report on 7/20, the NBA has had zero positive tests in their bubble. Now, they’re in Florida which is a bit of a hot mess right now but if they keep their bubble intact they are looking good, although very early in the process.

Why can’t MLB and the NFL do this on a larger scale? They are going to look silly if the NBA is successful and they don’t implement something similar.

The only players that have agreed to a bubble are those in a short window involving a knockout tournament (So more and more athletes get to leave every week). I don’t blame athletes for refusing to relocate and live in a bubble for several months.

MLB would’ve been about 4 months from ‘summer camp’ to the World Series. The football season is over 5 months. I’ll add that the logistics of 15 baseball games every day is different from even the NBA where I think they are limiting it to 2 courts.

[STL_XUfan]

Since their last report on 7/20, the NBA has had zero positive tests in their bubble. Now, they’re in Florida which is a bit of a hot mess right now but if they keep their bubble intact they are looking good, although very early in the process.

Why can’t MLB and the NFL do this on a larger scale? They are going to look silly if the NBA is successful and they don’t implement something similar.

MLS has also successfully kept their bubble intact after sending Nashville and Dallas home at the start.

[Lloyd Braun]

Yea I think they could have made it work in 4-5 bubbles. If a bubble doesn’t work for you or your family, then opt out. Is there any way the MLB season is completed with this current setup?

[XU '11]

Yea I think they could have made it work in 4-5 bubbles. If a bubble doesn’t work for you or your family, then opt out. Is there any way the MLB season is completed with this current setup?

I would bet that yes, the season will be completed. It probably won't be the only time that a team misses a week of games but I think the full MLB season will be played.

[Muskie in dayton]

Yea pretty much that retesting using a PCR test (nasal swab) after a positive test is pointless and has little to no bearing on whether that person is contagious. It’s not really a new concept, just confirming a hypothesis for the most part. Also this makes any policy requiring a negative test before returning to employment (or school) pointless and possibly detrimental.

Speaking further to the pointlessness of PCR tests to determine when someone is COVID-free:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....25.20162107v1
No one studied was found to have live COVID-19 virus after 9 days from infection, yet they still were shedding viral RNA up to 83 days after infection.

For some evidence of this, google Juan Soto COVID and you'll see a guy going insane from ridiculous test results.

[Lloyd Braun]

Speaking further to the pointlessness of PCR tests to determine when someone is COVID-free:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....25.20162107v1
No one studied was found to have live COVID-19 virus after 9 days from infection, yet they still were shedding viral RNA up to 83 days after infection.

For some evidence of this, google Juan Soto COVID and you'll see a guy going insane from ridiculous test results.

Yes it’s a ridiculous policy seemingly put in place for no good reason. Trying to be “extra cautious” can sometimes backfire. The CDC recommendations do not support testing until negative for that reason.

[boozehound]

Yes it’s a ridiculous policy seemingly put in place for no good reason. Trying to be “extra cautious” can sometimes backfire. The CDC recommendations do not support testing until negative for that reason.

I'm still confused by the whole 'testing' thing with regards to how and when to get tested, as well as when somebody is 'clear' of COVID if they had it.

For example: My son (6yrs old) currently has a fever. This being the age of COVID we immediately called his Doctor and expected them to tell us to have him tested. The told us not to have him tested unless (1) his fever persists for 72 hours, or (2) he develops other symptoms indicative of COVID. I guess based on the low case incidence for my area it's much more likely that he does not have COVID, but I'm still surprised that they didn't want to test and potentially contact trace more proactively.

We are treating it as though he has COVID (all quarantining) and we have informed our neighbors that we have interacted with that he has a fever, but we don't think he has COVID at this point. The Doctor said that if he gets better we are fine to go back to normal 24 hours after the fever breaks. We will probably give it a lot more time.

I'm not sure how he got sick at all (COVID or not) as we have been pretty careful and he hasn't interacted with anyone outside of outdoors at our neighborhood pool. School is going to be a nightmare this year.

[Lloyd Braun]

I'm still confused by the whole 'testing' thing with regards to how and when to get tested, as well as when somebody is 'clear' of COVID if they had it.

For example: My son (6yrs old) currently has a fever. This being the age of COVID we immediately called his Doctor and expected them to tell us to have him tested. The told us not to have him tested unless (1) his fever persists for 72 hours, or (2) he develops other symptoms indicative of COVID. I guess based on the low case incidence for my area it's much more likely that he does not have COVID, but I'm still surprised that they didn't want to test and potentially contact trace more proactively.

We are treating it as though he has COVID (all quarantining) and we have informed our neighbors that we have interacted with that he has a fever, but we don't think he has COVID at this point. The Doctor said that if he gets better we are fine to go back to normal 24 hours after the fever breaks. We will probably give it a lot more time.

I'm not sure how he got sick at all (COVID or not) as we have been pretty careful and he hasn't interacted with anyone outside of outdoors at our neighborhood pool. School is going to be a nightmare this year.

The approach with children is slightly different than adults for a few reasons. Children tend to get fevers more than adults in general, and if all children with a fever were tested it would be a slight burden to resources. From the disease-control side of things it would be ideal to have a home test for your family to do the next couple days, which would be more likely to reveal a positive test in a small cohort like a family. That would obviously be an incredibly costly thing to implement. Hope your son is ok btw.

The article MID referenced has some good info on how long people are contagious. The CDC has recommendation based on similar data.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...isolation.html

[Lloyd Braun]

https://twitter.com/govmikedewine/st...917575173?s=21

So the Ohio Board of Pharmacy restricts use for HCQ in treating COVID. The Governor recommends otherwise... should be interesting. I tend to agree with the Governor on this unless there is a shortage of HCQ, or overwhelming evidence of hoarding/poor prescribing. For instance, dentists prescribing this for their families is not appropriate but has happened on more than a few occasions.