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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    You mean a drug that has helped countless people for decades when prescribed by a doctor?

    Why does everyone want this drug to fail in its usefulness treating corona ? Bc Trump believes in it?

    What happened to the “if it can save one life” mantra from the left ?
    The problem is that some studies show it results in a worse outcome, with and without the Zpack. Other studies show it’s a good thing, with the Zpack and especially given with zinc.

    Bottom line, they just don’t know. It could help, it could hurt, and nobody knows who to believe. I certainly don’t.

    For this reason, I’m glad for every day they get to learn more. I’m also glad that we are opening again before we have a complete economic collapse. I think the answer, as usual, is probably in the middle somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xu82 View Post
    The problem is that some studies show it results in a worse outcome, with and without the Zpack. Other studies show it’s a good thing, with the Zpack and especially given with zinc.

    Bottom line, they just don’t know. It could help, it could hurt, and nobody knows who to believe. I certainly don’t.

    For this reason, I’m glad for every day they get to learn more. I’m also glad that we are opening again before we have a complete economic collapse. I think the answer, as usual, is probably in the middle somewhere.
    Right. It depends on the person and with a doctor's approval/prescription it could be helpful. My problem is with the disdain and immediate dismissal of the drug like it's some weird alternative medicine just because Trump talks about it. Hopefully they find many different drugs and vaccines so they can attack this from several angles because obviously no one drug is going to be a one size fits all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    You mean a drug that has helped countless people for decades when prescribed by a doctor?
    For malaria and lupus. Anyway, I doubt the lying SOB is taking it anyway. He just said that bcuz Rick Bright was on 60 minutes and said it was unsafe. Afterall, he's lied 18k times. The morons that follow him boosted prescriptions by 46x, even tho it has terrible side effects:

    headache, dizziness, ringing in your ears; paranoia,
    nausea, vomiting, stomach pain; hallucinations,
    loss of appetite, weight loss; pychosis, spinning sensation
    mood changes, feeling nervous or irritable;
    skin rash or itching; confusion, seizures, blurred vision
    hair loss, and my favorite "unusual thoughts and behavior".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    Right. It depends on the person and with a doctor's approval/prescription it could be helpful. My problem is with the disdain and immediate dismissal of the drug like it's some weird alternative medicine just because Trump talks about it. Hopefully they find many different drugs and vaccines so they can attack this from several angles because obviously no one drug is going to be a one size fits all.
    For me, my issue with this is not that he’s taking it, but that we have to know he’s taking it. He broadcasts he’s taking it which comes off as extremely out of touch and careless. The number of prescriptions for this has gone way up since he first mentioned it and created shortages in many areas and left people that take this regularly scrambling for pills. It’s just one of the many “think before you speak” moments to which we have become accustomed. If there was strong evidence it was beneficial in a prophylactic manner I would not have any issue with the President taking this and even broadcasting it with perhaps a bit of tact, but neither of those are the case. It’s not really a big deal or outrageous at all by itself, but there continue to be small things that accumulate over time to create eye rolls. He picks and chooses which medical records we have available, then fudges those records to make himself look healthier, and then apparently has a prescription for this medication that very few people can obtain for a virus that isn’t much worse than a “bad flu season”. Something doesn’t add up here. I think it’s wise that he gets tested daily and have zero issue with that if he is going to continue to be mask-free. We can’t complain about the media overhyping this and inducing panic, yet be OK with the POTUS announcing he is taking HCQ daily.

    The 2nd half of your post is very reasonable, as treatments have varied considerably all options for those very ill should be considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee View Post
    For malaria and lupus. Anyway, I doubt the lying SOB is taking it anyway. He just said that bcuz Rick Bright was on 60 minutes and said it was unsafe. Afterall, he's lied 18k times. The morons that follow him boosted prescriptions by 46x, even tho it has terrible side effects:

    headache, dizziness, ringing in your ears; paranoia,
    nausea, vomiting, stomach pain; hallucinations,
    loss of appetite, weight loss; pychosis, spinning sensation
    mood changes, feeling nervous or irritable;
    skin rash or itching; confusion, seizures, blurred vision
    hair loss, and my favorite "unusual thoughts and behavior".
    Tons of medications have side effects. Why do you act like this one is any different?

    https://news.yahoo.com/zinc-hydroxyc...215732283.html
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...ARUomR9Ww/edit

    There are numerous (and very early) studies and stories of it working for people. Again, why do you dismiss that just because Trump advocated for the drug?

    Orange man bad isn't a good policy on deciding which drugs work or don't work.


    EDIT: OR should we all take what Chris Cuomo took?

    On top of this is homeopathy, which works according to the symptom picture. Potentized quinine (OXO); it’s derived from the nontoxic bark of Peruvian-grown quinine plants. It is a natural antibiotic (it’s being used in India with very good results). This is not on the market here; Dr. Lancaster has made this in her lab for 40 years, and I took this for my Lyme. (The medicine Plaquinol, which many doctors are using for COVID-19 is similar to quinine, but it has negative side effects.)
    https://thepuristonline.com/2020/04/...ocol-week-two/
    Last edited by Juice; 05-18-2020 at 11:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun View Post
    We can’t complain about the media overhyping this and inducing panic, yet be OK with the POTUS announcing he is taking HCQ daily.
    Unless what I want is no more and no less than the truth with as little spin as possible. Then those two things are exactly congruous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee View Post
    For malaria and lupus. Anyway, I doubt the lying SOB is taking it anyway. He just said that bcuz Rick Bright was on 60 minutes and said it was unsafe. Afterall, he's lied 18k times. The morons that follow him boosted prescriptions by 46x, even tho it has terrible side effects:

    headache, dizziness, ringing in your ears; paranoia,
    nausea, vomiting, stomach pain; hallucinations,
    loss of appetite, weight loss; pychosis, spinning sensation
    mood changes, feeling nervous or irritable;
    skin rash or itching; confusion, seizures, blurred vision
    hair loss, and my favorite "unusual thoughts and behavior".
    Seems like our fearless leader is already experiencing some of these side effects.
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    The number of people I see wearing a mask in the car without passengers is baffling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun View Post
    The number of people I see wearing a mask in the car without passengers is baffling.
    Yeah. I see two possible scenarios for why that would happen:

    1. We are way dumber and more literal than I would have thought - This is a real possibility.

    2. Perhaps they just left the store where they touched a bunch of stuff and haven't yet washed their hands and don't want to touch their mask to take it off with potentially contaminated hands.

    Otherwise, why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boozehound View Post
    Yeah. I see two possible scenarios for why that would happen:

    1. We are way dumber and more literal than I would have thought - This is a real possibility.

    2. Perhaps they just left the store where they touched a bunch of stuff and haven't yet washed their hands and don't want to touch their mask to take it off with potentially contaminated hands.

    Otherwise, why?
    If they have a mask I would hope they have hand sanitizer as well. The other possible scenario is a ride share driver between riders... but I feel they are easy to spot. I think option 1 is the correct answer.

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