Covid-19

[Lloyd Braun]

Children are being tested and the tests themselves are being tested to determine accuracy. I haven’t seen anything published to support this theory but there is a chance that cross reactivity may be clouding data, and not just in children. For example, someone with immunity to a similar virus triggering a positive antibody test. Correlating antibody test results with nasal swabs/symptoms and determining if asymptomatic children are shedding viruses is taking a long time. This is why testing is so important and not a red herring, more data is needed to decide what to do regarding masks and distancing protocols. Can we require kids to wear masks? Good luck with that, it’s hard enough to get adults to comply.

[Juice]

Is anyone else skeptical that all of these kids are asymptomatic petrie dishes that are getting everyone else sick? All of the studies say they “think” this is the case, but there has been no proof because kids aren’t getting tested. They all say most kids get this and spread it to others.

Why the hell then wouldn’t they be giving antibody tests to a random sampling of kids to confirm that most have had this? Things just aren’t adding up with all of this. Every study says something different. I believe we’ve been misled in more ways than one.

This is the reason they won’t open schools but I’ve yet to see one study confirming it to be true and scientifically proven.

A study in Australia says that kids are unlikely to transmit it to others

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...reopen-schools

https://www.health.gov.au/news/getti...atter-of-trust

[Lloyd Braun]

A study in Australia says that kids are unlikely to transmit it to others

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...reopen-schools

https://www.health.gov.au/news/getti...atter-of-trust

As with everything else in this disease there is conflicting data. This study shows a large viral load in infected children. The infection rate in children is still significantly lower but the point remains that nothing is clear cut here.

One solid takeaway from this study however is that viral loads after 7 days are pretty low, even in those critically ill. So pretty much once symptoms start you are contagious for about a week, which is what decent news that it is not 2+ weeks.

[Lloyd Braun]

Maybe the Mexicans are onto something and we can do this before work or everyday nationwide...

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...avirus-covid19

[Juice]

As with everything else in this disease there is conflicting data. This study shows a large viral load in infected children. The infection rate in children is still significantly lower but the point remains that nothing is clear cut here.

One solid takeaway from this study however is that viral loads after 7 days are pretty low, even in those critically ill. So pretty much once symptoms start you are contagious for about a week, which is what decent news that it is not 2+ weeks.

Not trying to argue, just adding another country's study. Iceland found similar results to Australia.

Children under 10 are less likely to get infected than adults and if they get infected, they are less likely to get seriously ill. What is interesting is that even if children do get infected, they are less likely to transmit the disease to others than adults. We have not found a single instance of a child infecting parents.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...source=twitter

[Lloyd Braun]

Well sure they do, Iceland shut down the whole country including schools and only had 1800 cases and 10 deaths. Children weren’t going anywhere to get the virus.... It’s essentially eradicated there, for now.
Contact tracing on children is incredibly difficult, as is distancing them. I have no idea what the right answer is but IMO- I would send them back in the fall. Re-open daycares and have stricter policies for “no sick kids”. If your kid is sick, don’t send them to daycare and implement quick testing to return.

[boozehound]

Well sure they do, Iceland shut down the whole country including schools and only had 1800 cases and 10 deaths. Children weren’t going anywhere to get the virus.... It’s essentially eradicated there, for now.
Contact tracing on children is incredibly difficult, as is distancing them. I have no idea what the right answer is but IMO- I would send them back in the fall. Re-open daycares and have stricter policies for “no sick kids”. If your kid is sick, don’t send them to daycare and implement quick testing to return.

At this point I agree with the 'no school until fall' thing. The school year is basically over. You could potentially allow High School Seniors (or upperclassmen in general) back for a month, but I'm not sure what the point would be. Small children won't wear masks or social distance.

I also agree with those who are skeptical of the concept of kids as asymptomatic super spreaders. It's certainly possible - particularly given how much young children spread germs in general due to poor hand washing, face touching, not covering up coughs and sneezes. We still need to figure out how many kids even get the virus though. This is a key piece of information not necessarily just because of schooling but day care for Parents to go back to work.

[bobbiemcgee]

1 sneeze= 200,000,000 virus particles.

[xu82]

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/commun...2e06b5538f.png

Here is the chart (a few days old, it looks even better now) showing cases clearly declining.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news-full-episodes

Here is the NBC Nightly news from last night (about the 5:30 mark) saying how Georgia cases have surged 64% since beginning to reopen. OK, the total cases are still going up, but at a greatly declining rate. Talk about some media bullshit! There used to be days with ~900 new cases, now it’s more like a dozen. But they sure can scare the shit out of the old ladies in the retirement home! Like my mother who watches the news (against our wishes) then says “I was sure I’d be dead by now!”

I know, I know....what do you expect......


EDIT: one of the peak days (4/27) was 920 confirmed new cases. So far today there a grand total of 3 (THREE!) confirmed new cases, and just 24 hours ago NBC used said cases “SURGED 64%” since opening up. That is deliberately misleading and inexcusable fear mongering!

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[noteggs]

This is a hell of a side effect from stay at home and unemployment. Hopefully this study is way off!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ns/3081706001/